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re: NASCAR monster energy series @Las Vegas thread

Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by AwesomeSauce
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:44 pm to
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He could have let off and got behind Logano.

On the last lap? No, any driver who concedes a position on the last lap doesn't need to be in a seat with all the young talent in the Xfinity and CW series.

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Call it a pick or whatever you want...by dropping down when there wasnt room.


No one has faulted Joey for the move. He pushed his line up to try and trap the 18 behind the 2 who was having engine issues, was a good move. You also can't blame the 18 for seeing it and making a move to avoid a wreck. There was plenty of room if Joey sticks to the line he ran the whole race, instead he came up to the middle where nobody runs because there's no grip and you don't get the same momentum as you would running the top. That sequence was two drivers trying to win by bumping and taking advantage of traffic, I have zero issue with either driver there.

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Busch caused himself to wreck,

The bumping/pick have zero to do with what happened in turn 4. Joey got upset that his pick didn't work and he didn't have the car to win a drag race with the 18 so he wrecked him. This is what anyone who is not a Penske fan is acknowledging as a bad move by a young driver who is starting to develop a reputation as a guy who will wreck you if he can't pass you and won't even admit to it. At least Carl, Big E, and Rowdy admitted they initiated contact. Trying to constantly blame the other driver is tired and completely disingenuous.
Posted by MikeHoncho47
St. Mary Parish
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:54 pm to
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those two guys need to learn how to at least come across as apologetic


This. At least with Kyle, Kurt, and Harvick you know if/when they did it on purpose. If it's their fault, they will admit it. It was the same thing with Tony Stewart. Those two are very smug, although Brad is not as much as he used to be.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
35017 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:09 pm to
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On the last lap? No, any driver who concedes a position on the last lap doesn't need to be in a seat


So anything goes on the last lap? Then what are we complaining about?


Busch didn't 'make a move to avoid a wreck'. He initiated contact when he refused to back out of the throttle. If he's ok with that move, he shpuld be ok with whatever 'retaliation' he gets, but he obviously isn't. Of course, intellectual honesty isn't exactly required of NASCAR drivers, or fans.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58480 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:00 pm to
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quote: Call it a pick or whatever you want...by dropping down when there wasnt room. No one has faulted Joey for the move. He pushed his line up to try and trap the 18 behind the 2 who was having engine issues, was a good move. You also can't blame the 18 for seeing it and making a move to avoid a wreck. There was plenty of room if Joey sticks to the line he ran the whole race, instead he came up to the middle where nobody runs because there's no grip and you don't get the same momentum as you would running the top. That sequence was two drivers trying to win by bumping and taking advantage of traffic, I have zero issue with either driver there.


Totally agree

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quote: Busch caused himself to wreck, The bumping/pick have zero to do with what happened in turn 4. Joey got upset that his pick didn't work and he didn't have the car to win a drag race with the 18 so he wrecked him. This is what anyone who is not a Penske fan is acknowledging as a bad move by a young driver who is starting to develop a reputation as a guy who will wreck you if he can't pass you and won't even admit to it. At least Carl, Big E, and Rowdy admitted they initiated contact. Trying to constantly blame the other driver is tired and completely disingenuous.


Totally disagree

Joey went into the last corner aggressively (as he should) and got loose
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 6:02 pm
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