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If slaves aren't immigrants then what are Dreamers?

Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:31 pm
Since slaves did not come to the USA of their own free will so it's offensive to call them immigrants and Dreamers did not come to the USA of their own free will then why are Dreamers called immigrants?
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 5:44 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:32 pm to
Illegal aliens.

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Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:32 pm to
Our friends!
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:40 pm to
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Illegal aliens.


That's what I call them but lefties call Dreamers immigrants even though they did not come to the USA of their own free will. Yet lefties are offended that Dr. Carlson called slaves immigrants because they did not come to the USA of their own free will.

This doesn't make sense.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 5:46 pm
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:49 pm to
Can you really not make any distinction between slavery and childhood?
Posted by zackluke10496
Atlanta, Ga
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:50 pm to
Seriously...please tell me you are not comparing children who were brought here by their parents seeking a better life to people who were violently and forcibly relocated here to endure a life of slavery.
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:55 pm to
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lefties


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doesn't make sense


Water is wet
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 5:57 pm to
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Seriously...please tell me you are not comparing children who were brought here by their parents seeking a better life to people who were violently and forcibly relocated here to endure a life of slavery.


It doesn't matter what reason slaves and Dreamers were brought to the USA.

Neither of them came to the USA of their own free will.

So if it is offensive to say that slaves were immigrants simply because they did not come to the USA of their own free will then Dreamers should not be called immigrants for the very same reason that they did not come to the USA of their own free will.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:03 pm to
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If slaves aren't immigrants then what are Dreamers?


The democrats 3rd largest voting block right behind deceased ppl & african americans.
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:08 pm to
Were the Dreamers brought here with the sole intention of enslavement? Mental gymnastics....
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:10 pm to
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Were the Dreamers brought here with the sole intention of enslavement?

Yes...to work on the democrat plantation in service to their masters in exchange for free shite and victim status.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:12 pm to
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Were the Dreamers brought here with the sole intention of enslavement? Mental gymnastics....


Were Dreamers brought here of their own free will?

Maybe Dreamers would not have come to the USA if they had a choice.
Posted by dmjones
Acworth, GA
Member since Mar 2016
2303 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:13 pm to
Still not the same thing. Their parents brought them here in hopes of a better life and future. Slaves were brought here for the sole intention slavery. It's just that simple.

You're what, 70? Dementia?
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 6:14 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:16 pm to
They are the children of illegal immigrants. Same as they always were. I think your conclusion is off if it leads you to conflate the two.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:35 pm to
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So if it is offensive to say


The only thing offensive is someone as stupid as you being a UGA fan.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37517 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:36 pm to
Then it's going to really piss you off that UGA granted him a degree.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:37 pm to
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They are the children of illegal immigrants.


Yes, but they did not come to the USA of their own free will.

Therefore, according to lefties who are opposed to slaves being called immigrants because they did not come to the USA of their own free will, Dreamers are not immigrants.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 6:38 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:41 pm to
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Then it's going to really piss you off that UGA granted him a degree.


At least I got to choose to go to UGA and earn a degree of my own free will.

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37517 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:43 pm to
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Yes, but they did not come to the USA of their own free will.

Therefore, according to lefties who are opposed to slaves being called immigrants because they did not come to the USA of their own free will, Dreamers are not immigrants.
Because that's how humanity works, dawgfan. Children are raised by parents and usually accompany them wherever they choose to live. They're minors, so there opinion on the matter only carries as much weight as the parents allowed. Children of immigrants have always been considered immigrants and they always will, your opinion not withstanding. To compare children traveling with their parents to the slave trade is silly.
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