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re: Beauty and the Beast Disney Agenda

Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:32 pm to
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Demonizing people is not what Christ would want, and by sheltering your kids from that, you're doing just that.



Keeping your kids from something like that isn't demonizing anyone. If you have a young child that isn't at the age of reason, it's up to you what you expose them to. They are impressionable. That's not demonizing. That's parenting.

Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:33 pm to
Yeah I never knew Belle and Beast fricked while he was in animal form. Maybe they saw a different version than I did.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:33 pm to
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Y'all are the only ones who have a problem with peoples' choices here.



I just think your choices in not seeing it just because a character is gay (that was implied to be gay in the original) is stupid.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:38 pm to
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I just think your choices in not seeing it just because a character is gay is stupid.


Never said this, but thanks for admitting you are the one who has a problem with people making their own choices.

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(that was implied to be gay in the original)


No it isn't.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 2:40 pm
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:44 pm to
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They are impressionable.


your kid isn't gonna become a pole smoker because he saw a disney movie at age 5, or whatever
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:48 pm to
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your kid isn't gonna become a pole smoker because he saw a disney movie at age 5, or whatever


That is irrelevant, but there's also no way you could possibly know this for sure.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:51 pm to
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your kid isn't gonna become a pole smoker because he saw a disney movie at age 5, or whatever



Maybe not, but keeping them from a movie with gay scene or content doesn't mean you're demonizing anyone either.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:51 pm to
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That is irrelevant, but there's also no way you could possibly know this for sure.



obviously

but common sense tells me how a kid is raised will influence a child much more than seeing a movie. Particularly one that they likely won't even recognize the scene in question as a "gay scene".

It's just a ridiculous notion.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Read about her feminist views. Extreme liberal. She made them change Belle's story so she is more independent too

Independent women? The horror
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:54 pm to
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but common sense tells me how a kid is raised will influence a child much more than seeing a movie. Particularly one that they likely won't even recognize the scene in question as a "gay scene"


How a child is raised includes determining which movies you expose them to.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:55 pm to
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Independent women? The horror


Belle wasn't already an independent woman? How do you even make that character "more" independent?
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:58 pm to
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How a child is raised includes determining which movies you expose them to.



Have you watched this scene? If you're honestly worried this scene could make your child gay, you have to be a seriously insecure parent.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 3:01 pm to
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Maybe not, but keeping them from a movie with gay scene or content doesn't mean you're demonizing anyone either.



it's sheltering your children from something not worth sheltering them from. You not wanting your child to be exposed to the gay community at a young age is demonizing the gay community. it's your kid; do what you want. But it's not like there's sodomy in this scene. Treating beauty and the beast in the same manner as you'd treat a horror movie filled with gore is ridiculous.

Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 3:04 pm to
I had assumed we were past the actual scene and more into the discussion of gay content in movies, whether subtle or explicit.

Again, I don't have a problem with the scene but maybe you will see the bar raised. And it seems this discussion has morphed into whether parents are justified in not wanting to expose their children to LGBTQIA behavior. People in this thread have called skeptical parents insecure, dumb, irrational, and other things and to be honest I haven't seen an argument proving it.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 3:04 pm to
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She made them change Belle's story so she is more independent too.


What changes could they possibly have made? Belle's character was already emphasized as an extremely independent.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 3:05 pm to
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Have you watched this scene? If you're honestly worried this scene could make your child gay, you have to be a seriously insecure parent.


Like I have repeatedly stated, the way they are acting about the "exclusively gay moment" in the film makes me think the scene we have seen cannot possibly be all there is to it. On its own, no one would possibly come to the conclusion that it is a "gay moment." For that reason, I will watch the film before I show it to my children. That is the smart thing to do. I am certain I will not be the only one.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 3:08 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 3:06 pm to
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You not wanting your child to be exposed to the gay community at a young age is demonizing the gay community.


Nope. Besides, gay activities are sinful. They demonize themselves plenty on their own. Watching or not watching this movie changes nothing about that.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 3:06 pm to
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You not wanting your child to be exposed to the gay community at a young age is demonizing the gay community. i


This is the huge leap you keep making but it's not true. I'm not doubting that there are people who demonize gay people. But it is possible parents don't want to expose their children to such content for other reasons other than they demonize gay people. Some content is confusing and the child might not understand it. If your child is 9, you can start having those conversations. Younger children don't reason so you want to make sure you're not normalizing/encouraging behavior that could affect their mental development.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 3:08 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 3:09 pm to
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What changes could they possibly have made? Belle's character was already emphasized as an extremely independent.


This is also very odd. Belle already struck me as a strong, independent female lead.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 3:09 pm to
I don't know, it's probably been 15 years since I've seen it. I just think it's funny that pushing for women to have more independence is seen as some type of crazy liberal agenda.
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