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on the other hand, there is a lot to be said about using little edges that can be found in order to manipulate a person into believing they like you, especially if the goal of that manipulation is just for sexual gratification. it's very hollow and when really focused can evolve into legitimate sociopathy

The thing is, women do it too. Society has been brainwashed to believe only men can be players, only men can be self serving, and that women are innocent in all of this.

Think of all the times women exploit men for their resources. It's extremely common. Women even marry men simply for their resources. Think of the woman who has an army of orbiters who she friendzoned who she dangles carrots in front of to get free meals, gifts, emotional support, attention, validation, etc.

Yeah there are men out there who use women for sex. But the equivalent of that is women who use men for resources.

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Posted by NIH

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Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:09 am to goldennugget

the scary part of that for women is that they are still the reliant ones in those situations

they rely on the guy finding them attractive for free gifts, drinks, meals, etc.

a put together good looking guy with nice things and a successful career will have women come to him and will still be in control

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Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:11 am to goldennugget

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The thing is, women do it too.

i don't care who does it. shallow is shallow

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Think of all the times women exploit men for their resources. It's extremely common. Women even marry men simply for their resources. Think of the woman who has an army of orbiters who she friendzoned who she dangles carrots in front of to get free meals, gifts, emotional support, attention, validation, etc.

just b/c i don't agree with Roosh-ists on a moral/value level doesn't mean that i agree with these people

i talk about this at length in the "friend zone" threads. that's the "bad friend zone" and is a terrible co-dependent relationship between two leeches pretty often. both just sucking off surface-level base desires from each other with nothing real underneath (but both pretend there is a lot more mutual appreciation going on there, which is a lie). that's just delusion by both b/c they don't want to lie about how much they're using the other

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