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re: Hobie Mirage Drive 180
Posted on 2/16/17 at 3:04 pm to GeauxMatt624
Posted on 2/16/17 at 3:04 pm to GeauxMatt624
I'm in the same boat as you. I'm going to demo the natives and the Hobie Outback. The people at Pack and Paddle (employee and a random customer) said there is no comparison though. They both said the Outback is the superior product and gave me a huge list of reasons why. A big reason was the ease of working on the mirage drive vs the propel drive. Apparently it's $200 to take the propel apart to work on it and they are frequently getting brought back in with problems. Also, the propel is basically useless in shallow water and grass, where you can still pedal the Hobie. The employee said the natives are good boats but not in the Hobies league.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 3:51 pm to Dtiger19
Hmm thats surprising to me. I feel like all of the videos I see, John is in that orange Native. One of his videos are even on the Slayer 13 page on the Native website.
I get back from my honeymoon on March 5th and will be heading to Pack & Paddle the next weekend to demo an Outback and the Slayer 13 (maybe an Old Town PDL if they have one in stock). The new wife said she will pay for part of it as a wedding present![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/Iconbanana1.gif)
I get back from my honeymoon on March 5th and will be heading to Pack & Paddle the next weekend to demo an Outback and the Slayer 13 (maybe an Old Town PDL if they have one in stock). The new wife said she will pay for part of it as a wedding present
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This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 2/16/17 at 4:35 pm to Dtiger19
quote:I would have never guessed this. My perception, just from looking and not using, is that Hobies are either giant, which I don't want, or toyish looking/feeling in the smaller models. I have never considered any of their models in my shopping.
The people at Pack and Paddle (employee and a random customer) said there is no comparison though. They both said the Outback is the superior product and gave me a huge list of reasons why.
Posted on 2/16/17 at 9:50 pm to Dtiger19
If I had to guess, the people you were talking to were probably on the Hobie Fishing team and get free shite in return for telling you that.
I have owned both native slayer propel 13 and hobie outback for 2 years. Both are great boats and I completely disagree with Hobie being in a different league. I also disagree on $200 to take the drive apart. My preferred boat is the native. I'll give you a more detailed review in the morning when I get to my office computer on pros and cons of both boats.
Also the seal issues mentioned a couple posts up are no longer an issue. These issues were with the 301 series drives which stopped being produced a few years ago. All the new propel drives are the 401 series with redesigned seals and no longer have this problem.
I have owned both native slayer propel 13 and hobie outback for 2 years. Both are great boats and I completely disagree with Hobie being in a different league. I also disagree on $200 to take the drive apart. My preferred boat is the native. I'll give you a more detailed review in the morning when I get to my office computer on pros and cons of both boats.
Also the seal issues mentioned a couple posts up are no longer an issue. These issues were with the 301 series drives which stopped being produced a few years ago. All the new propel drives are the 401 series with redesigned seals and no longer have this problem.
This post was edited on 2/16/17 at 9:53 pm
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