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re: I am the Department of Education: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!

Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:07 pm to
I think people are seeing that graph and shitting on teachers without realizing that teacher salaries have been pretty much the same since 1970 (and declined relative to other professions).



Source and further discussion here.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:09 pm to
Yeah, teachers are not the problem here. Teachers unions, and parents are the problem here. When my wife teaches at a title I school, and tries to hold parent teacher meetings to talk about the children's progress and weak points, and out of a class of 30 she can only get two parents to show up, it's not the teachers that are the problem.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 4:17 pm to
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I think people are seeing that graph and shitting on teachers without realizing that teacher salaries have been pretty much the same since 1970 (and declined relative to other professions).
no. I just see that graph combined with Educators telling me that the primary problem and education has to do with non-monetary factors and ask myself this. If the primary problem isn't monetary and enormously increasing budgets haven't had any real effect then isn't that an argument to stop increasing budgets? Hell isn't it an argument that says it was no justification for the huge increases in the first place
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

I think people are seeing that graph and shitting on teachers without realizing that teacher salaries have been pretty much the same since 1970 (and declined relative to other professions).
I would imagine that the increase is because there are probably more support staff, especially with IDEA and the professionals involved in that.

There may also be smaller classrooms sizes, but I may be wrong
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