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Can anyone logically defend the 21 drinking age law?
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:10 am
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:10 am
How this is legal in the United States has always been a mystery to me.
The list of things you are legally allowed to do or are eligible for in this country at 18: Marry, enlist, buy tobacco, vote, jail, death penalty, civil liability, and the list goes on.
Things you can't do: Buy alcohol, gamble (except on Indian Reservations, which are mostly 18).
The list of things you are legally allowed to do or are eligible for in this country at 18: Marry, enlist, buy tobacco, vote, jail, death penalty, civil liability, and the list goes on.
Things you can't do: Buy alcohol, gamble (except on Indian Reservations, which are mostly 18).
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:11 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Nope
16 year olds shouldn't be allowed to drive though IMO.
16 year olds shouldn't be allowed to drive though IMO.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:12 am to Bjorn Cyborg
If you're old enough to die for old glory, you're old enough to take a damn shot of whiskey.
Drinking age is a giant arse farce.
Drinking age is a giant arse farce.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:13 am to Roger Klarvin
Even the age of consent in most states is 17 or even 16 (maybe lower in some states).
So, you could be fricking like a rabbit for 5 years, but don't drink a beer.
So, you could be fricking like a rabbit for 5 years, but don't drink a beer.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:15 am to beerJeep
On moral grounds, no it cannot be defended.
On medical grounds, there might be evidence that alcohol to an immature brain might cause harm (though I don't remember specifics or have any studies to cite, but Google can probably help here). The brain doesn't fully develop until the mid 20's.
On medical grounds, there might be evidence that alcohol to an immature brain might cause harm (though I don't remember specifics or have any studies to cite, but Google can probably help here). The brain doesn't fully develop until the mid 20's.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:15 am to Bjorn Cyborg
It may be beside the point, but are there any statistics that show raising the drinking age has helped in any way?
For example, when Louisiana raised the drinking age from 18 to 21, was there a decrease in alcohol-related incidents or deaths?
For example, when Louisiana raised the drinking age from 18 to 21, was there a decrease in alcohol-related incidents or deaths?
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:17 am to Bjorn Cyborg
This is a tough one for me. Think about how stupid you were at 21, double that, and you get 18.
The libertarian in me is also conflicted. If we were to change it to 18, why not just abolish the age restriction completely. Why 18?
I think 19 or 20 is a reasonable change because that excludes HS kids.
A physiological argument: it could be hypothesized that those close to the legal age are more likely to think themselves ready to drink and are more likely to drink underage. If we were to move the age to 18 15-17 year olds would then be the ones more likely to underage drink. Drinking alcohol to get drunk at an age where you are still developing your body and brain is not a good thing to do..
The libertarian in me is also conflicted. If we were to change it to 18, why not just abolish the age restriction completely. Why 18?
I think 19 or 20 is a reasonable change because that excludes HS kids.
A physiological argument: it could be hypothesized that those close to the legal age are more likely to think themselves ready to drink and are more likely to drink underage. If we were to move the age to 18 15-17 year olds would then be the ones more likely to underage drink. Drinking alcohol to get drunk at an age where you are still developing your body and brain is not a good thing to do..
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:17 am to Bjorn Cyborg
No, I cannot. I also cannot justify the criminalization of Marijuana and prostitution.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:17 am to PrimeTime Money
Maybe, but that's irrelevant. Why not raise it to 30? Save more lives. Outlaw alcohol. Save more lives.
This whole "but it saves XXX lives" is ridiculous.
This whole "but it saves XXX lives" is ridiculous.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:18 am to Bjorn Cyborg
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:19 am to Bjorn Cyborg
The real question is "How is weed still illegal for any age in most states?"
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:20 am to Bjorn Cyborg
15 years or so from now, when driverless cars are ubiquitous, there will be zero argument.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:21 am to bamafan1001
All that is fine. But we either need to define the age of majority or we don't.
You could change it to "marriage" or "join the army" in your post. Would it make more sense?
It is completely illogical to say that someone is old enough to go to war, receive the death penalty, vote or get married, but not to drink alcohol.
You could change it to "marriage" or "join the army" in your post. Would it make more sense?
It is completely illogical to say that someone is old enough to go to war, receive the death penalty, vote or get married, but not to drink alcohol.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:22 am to PrimeTime Money
I think some stats show that drunk driving deaths decreased, but that coincided with safer cars...
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:22 am to Negative Nomad
Well, I'm nearly 50 so...
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:23 am to Crimson Mafia IIIX
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The real question is "How is weed still illegal for any age in most states?"
Recently spent time in Denver and Keystone. I seriously do not understand why weed is illegal in most states still.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:24 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
Can anyone logically defend the 21 drinking age law?
No, it should be 25 if you ask me
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:26 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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No, it should be 25 if you ask me
I am asking you. Defend your statement in light of the other thresholds to adulthood.
Posted on 2/11/17 at 10:27 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:I said it may be beside the point. But the point of raising the question is that if there was a decrease in alcohol-related deaths, then that is an argument in favor of raising the drinking age whether you agree with it or not.
Maybe, but that's irrelevant. Why not raise it to 30? Save more lives. Outlaw alcohol. Save more lives. This whole "but it saves XXX lives" is ridiculous.
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