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re: Planned Parenthood keeps saying 3% of their income is from abortions

Posted on 2/1/17 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 3:31 pm to
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The only way for someone like me to prevent these killings from happening is to change it through government action.
Ridiculously untrue, which is why I'm not buying your angle.

If you thought people were committing murders to the tune of 50million since RvW, you would have done more. But you don't do anything--you just preach. What you get from this is the same thing I got from it when I contributed the same as you to the abortion dialogue: perceived moral superiority.

If you call the half of the country who are ok with a woman's 9th amendment privacy rights "murderers," you get to be "better than them." I get it. It feels good.

But if the 53% of us who are morally opposed to abortion really thought it was murder, we'd have the problem solved over the weekend. But we won't. Because we don't believe abortion is murder. If you like saying it because it makes you feel good, I hope you're happy. But I'm not buying it. None of your actions indicate sincerity.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 3:33 pm to
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Ridiculously untrue, which is why I'm not buying your angle.

If you thought people were committing murders to the tune of 50million since RvW, you would have done more. But you don't do anything--you just preach. What you get from this is the same thing I got from it when I contributed the same as you to the abortion dialogue: perceived moral superiority.

If you call the half of the country who are ok with a woman's 9th amendment privacy rights "murderers," you get to be "better than them." I get it. It feels good.

But if the 53% of us who are morally opposed to abortion really thought it was murder, we'd have the problem solved over the weekend. But we won't. Because we don't believe abortion is murder. If you like saying it because it makes you feel good, I hope you're happy. But I'm not buying it. None of your actions indicate sincerity.





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This post was edited on 2/1/17 at 3:33 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16673 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 3:40 pm to
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But if the 53% of us who are morally opposed to abortion really thought it was murder, we'd have the problem solved over the weekend


What do you mean by this? How would the problem be solved over the weekend?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41870 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 3:59 pm to
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Ridiculously untrue, which is why I'm not buying your angle.

If you thought people were committing murders to the tune of 50million since RvW, you would have done more. But you don't do anything--you just preach. What you get from this is the same thing I got from it when I contributed the same as you to the abortion dialogue: perceived moral superiority.
To do anything other than fight this battle in the political arena is to make the situation even worse, which is not what I want.

Options (aside from the government making it illegal):
1. Kill pregnant women who seek abortions. Not effective as it kills two people instead of none.
2. Kill abortion doctors. Not effective as other doctors will be available.
3. Block access to abortion clinics. Not effective because you could be arrested for trespassing and abortions will still happen
4. Blow up abortion clinics. Not effective as abortions will just occur in other clinics/hospitals (can't blow up hospitals because you are now potentially killing other innocents)

And that doesn't even speak to the moral implications of those actions, which I believe are immoral.

All options result in either deaths or delays but doesn't fix the abortion problem. It's a war that has to be fought in the legislature and the courts.

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If you call the half of the country who are ok with a woman's 9th amendment privacy rights "murderers," you get to be "better than them." I get it. It feels good.
This debate has nothing to do with feeling morally superior. Such a thing was never stated and it isn't reality. I believe that abortion for convenience is immoral on its face and it has nothing to do with my own actions.

Also, the privacy argument for abortion is bogus and that's why it can be overturned by the courts. It's a made up right and therefore it can be taken away.

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But if the 53% of us who are morally opposed to abortion really thought it was murder, we'd have the problem solved over the weekend. But we won't. Because we don't believe abortion is murder. If you like saying it because it makes you feel good, I hope you're happy. But I'm not buying it. None of your actions indicate sincerity.
What you and other lunatics are advocating is large-scale murder to stop murder as if that's a valid option. It's not. Those of us who think abortion is immoral aren't insincere; we are realists. The situation of a woman aborting her child is not the same as a man bringing a gun to a school with the intent to murder. You can't pull a gun on a pregnant woman or an abortion doctor and claim it's the same thing as stopping a school shooter.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56944 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 5:03 pm to
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If you thought people were committing murders to the tune of 50million since RvW, you would have done more. But you don't do anything--you just preach. What you get from this is the same thing I got from it when I contributed the same as you to the abortion dialogue: perceived moral superiority.



Agree. And, you see the same thing in relation to black on black murder. The liberals don't do anything about it because they don't view a black person's life being taken as murder. They equate that life much lower than that...otherwise, they would do something about it.


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