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re: I wonder how oppressed women feel
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:So let's just ignore it?
well then neither of us can even comment
Or, you know, maybe it's the type of problem that requires marches, protests, and awareness to bring to light so maybe some of the oppressed can break free.
quote:Got data?
the negative factors you're alluding to are heavily disproportionate to certain demos
quote:Not really my MO.
so tread lightly
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:No. I would say "expected" or "obvious".
Amazing eh?
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:12 pm to Korkstand
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I think it's the fear that Trump's perceived personal beliefs
Perception is what they want it to be. Damn all the evidence that he hires women to help run his business and treats them well.
I told my liberal brother in law that he should be angry I married his sister because I've said worse shite than Trump 10 years ago.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:12 pm to Korkstand
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so maybe some of the oppressed can break free.
People with victim mentality rarely break free. The depend on someone or someone to free them. Victims cling together in a hive and feed off of collective anxiety and fear.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:13 pm to Korkstand
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Got data?
LINK
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Approximately 4 out of every 10 non-Hispanic Black women (43.7%), 4 out of every 10 American Indian or Alaska Native women (46.0%), and 1 in 2 multiracial non-Hispanic women (53.8%) have been the victim of rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime. These rates are 30%-50% higher than those experienced by Hispanic, White non-Hispanic women and Asian or Pacific non-Hispanic women
these stories got really big around Ray Rice
Why Black Women Struggle with Domestic Violenc
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And for Black women, it's an even bigger problem: Black women are almost three times as likely to experience death as a result of DV/IPV than White women. And while Black women only make up 8% of the population, 22% of homicides that result from DV/IPV happen to Black Women and 29% of all victimized women, making it one of the leading causes of death for Black women ages 15 to 35. Statistically, we experience sexual assault and DV/IPV at disproportionate rates and have the highest rates of intra-racial violence against us than any other group. We are also less likely to report or seek help when we are victimized.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:13 pm to roadGator
It's pretty funny to me that some of these women's signs and/or costumes are more vulgar and offensive than something Trump said ten years ago in private.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Like the poliboard?
Yes, it's called the hive mind
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:14 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Like the poliboard
You post here. I guess you're part of the hive
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
SES and domestic violence
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Although exposure to violence affects all SES groups, lower SES individuals and families appear to have increased exposure.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:15 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:And then when they take matters into their own hands, they get criticized to no end. Huh.
People with victim mentality rarely break free. The depend on someone or someone to free them.
quote:I saw a whole lot of that over the past 8 years.
Victims cling together in a hive and feed off of collective anxiety and fear.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:16 pm to When in Rome
quote:
It's pretty funny to me that some of these women's signs and/or costumes are more vulgar and offensive than something Trump said ten years ago in private.
100%
i was SO HAPPY this happened so quickly after Trump's election b/c it eliminates any of the "Alt-right' commentary about the extreme shite uttered by that group. when they couldn't imagine how somebody could say/do something extreme for a reaction, yet then say/do something extreme...for a reaction...i laugh
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:17 pm to Korkstand
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And then when they take matters into their own hands, they get criticized to no end. Huh
I find irrational fears worthy of criticism.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
Here are some other tidbits relating to domestic violence in that TIME article I posted:
And a bonus:
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MYTH 3: In the United States, 22%–35% of women who visit hospital emergency rooms do so because of domestic violence.
FACTS: This claim has appeared in countless fact sheets, books and articles—for example, in the leading textbook on family violence, Domestic Violence Law, and in the Penguin Atlas of Women in the World. The Penguin Atlas uses the emergency room figure to justify placing the U.S. on par with Uganda and Haiti for intimate violence.
What is the provenance? The Atlas provides no primary source, but the editor of Domestic Violence Law cites a 1997 Justice Department study, as well as a 2009 post on the Centers for Disease Control website. But the Justice Department and the CDC are not referring to the 40 million women who annually visit emergency rooms, but to women, numbering about 550,000 annually, who come to emergency rooms "for violence-related injuries." Of these, approximately 37% were attacked by intimates. So, it’s not the case that 22%-35% of women who visit emergency rooms are there for domestic violence. The correct figure is less than half of 1%.
And a bonus:
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MYTH 4: One in five in college women will be sexually assaulted.
FACTS: This incendiary figure is everywhere in the media today. Journalists, senators and even President Obama cite it routinely. Can it be true that the American college campus is one of the most dangerous places on earth for women?
The one-in-five figure is based on the Campus Sexual Assault Study, commissioned by the National Institute of Justice and conducted from 2005 to 2007. Two prominent criminologists, Northeastern University’s James Alan Fox and Mount Holyoke College’s Richard Moran, have noted its weaknesses:
“The estimated 19% sexual assault rate among college women is based on a survey at two large four-year universities, which might not accurately reflect our nation's colleges overall. In addition, the survey had a large non-response rate, with the clear possibility that those who had been victimized were more apt to have completed the questionnaire, resulting in an inflated prevalence figure.”
Fox and Moran also point out that the study used an overly broad definition of sexual assault. Respondents were counted as sexual assault victims if they had been subject to “attempted forced kissing” or engaged in intimate encounters while intoxicated.
Defenders of the one-in-five figure will reply that the finding has been replicated by other studies. But these studies suffer from some or all of the same flaws. Campus sexual assault is a serious problem and will not be solved by statistical hijinks.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:18 pm to Korkstand
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And then when they take matters into their own hands, they get criticized to no end. Huh.
marching in a symbolic protest against a boogeyman that doesn't exist is not "taking matters into their own hands". it has no individual agency
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Wonderful!quote:LINK
Got data?
quote:Exactly. The oppressed are less likely to speak out, and you guys are criticizing the less-than-oppressed who are marching? Someone has to do it. Or, would you prefer we just ignore it and wait for the "real" victims to organize an event?
Statistically, we experience sexual assault and DV/IPV at disproportionate rates and have the highest rates of intra-racial violence against us than any other group. We are also less likely to report or seek help when we are victimized.
Yeah, the oppressed need to force change themselves, but at some point they need the help of someone (a lot of someones) in the oppressing class to help.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:You continue to marginalize these women by labeling their fears as irrational.
I find irrational fears worthy of criticism.
But just keep wondering why a woman might feel disrespected in this country.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:27 pm to Korkstand
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The oppressed are less likely to speak out, and you guys are criticizing the less-than-oppressed who are marching?
uh, how many of those protesters were criticizing black males for their inflated rates of domestic violence?
hell black women are being crtical of the march for being overly white
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Or, would you prefer we just ignore it and wait for the "real" victims to organize an event?
i'd rather the protest be focused and clear on the protest and not a "have your cake and eat it too" scenario
again, this goes back to the "what, exactly are they protesting?" question
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:27 pm to Korkstand
Welp, it's been fun guys, but I have work to do.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:28 pm to roadGator
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Damn all the evidence that he hires women to help run his business and treats them well.
It always amazes me how Dems ignore this, and it is up to Rs to be the diverse group.
Didn't GWB have the most diverse cabinet in history during his tenure?
Now, Trump, who supposedly hates women, appoints KAC to lead his campaign. Again, first woman in history to do so, yet....
They literally live in their own bubble of BS. Useful idiots.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 1:28 pm to Korkstand
data that may make argument potentially racist is posted, liberal has to go
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