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re: LSU was undefeated in 2016 with Canada as OC

Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:32 am to
Posted by crescentcity
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:32 am to
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Hypotheticals don't mean shite


That's true a head coach should never ask, how, hypothetically, this coordinator might do with our offense?

Good Lord...
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:33 am to
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agree that with Canada's offense and Orgeron as HC the whole year, I think they could have been undefeated. The SEC was not that strong and I think Canada (w/o Les Miles handcuffs) could have scored 13 points on Alabama.


What? Orgeron didnt have the players focused against Florida.
Posted by JP46
Member since Aug 2014
52 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:26 pm to
I don't agree with you - they looked focused to me. I have seen many times a stronger team outplay its opponent and still lose the game because of critical mistakes. Yes, I know that the critical mistakes are often due to a lack of focus, but not always. Fumbles are a part of football - you work hard to minimize them, but they are still going to happen. Sometimes a team just beats itself. As Bobby Knight said about coaching basketball fundamentals, you have to coach really hard against the game itself, because the game itself can beat you.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46645 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:41 pm to
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still lose the game because of critical mistake


Lack of focus lead directly to critical mistakes.
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Yes, I know that the critical mistakes are often due to a lack of focus, but not always.


In every instance.
A fumble occurs because of a lack of focus on ball security.
A int happens because lack of focus on the where the defense is.
If youre focused, critical mistakes dont happen.

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Sometimes a team just beats itself.


Yeah because of a lack of focus on fundamentals.

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As Bobby Knight said about coaching basketball fundamentals, you have to coach really hard against the game itself, because the game itself can beat you.


This is utter bullshite.

No basketball team has ever lost to the game of basketball. They have lost to an opponent that has taken advantage of mistakes. Mistakes made because of a lack of focus.

Now yes if a team is just more talented they can make you lose focus with sheer physicality and speed. This isnt the case in the lsu vs florida game.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46645 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:46 pm to
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hat's true a head coach should never ask, how, hypothetically, this coordinator might do with our offense?

Good Lord...



Uh. They dont ask what the coordinator wouldve done with the previous team. Next year? Sure.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
8900 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:48 pm to
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I could have easily pulled tail from the three Hooters waitresses that were sitting in my lap feeding me chicken legs last night.

Man this is SUCH BS!!!








Hooters doesn't serve chicken legs.
Posted by JP46
Member since Aug 2014
52 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 2:08 pm to
Well, I will put it like this. As I recall the Florida game, LSU looked to me like they came ready to play. Maybe it's a matter of degrees (of focus), and maybe they weren't at 100% following big games against Alabama and Arkansas, but they played pretty hard for most of the game and well enough to win except for mistakes in critical situations (and losing Beckwith). Was Beckwith's injury due to lack of focus? How many teams play at their highest level of focus every week? I wasn't too enthused with Orgeron's hiring, but to me LSU played with more intensity week in and week out than they did under Miles.

As far as the Bobby Knight quote (assuming I remember his statement correctly), I think he was just saying in a loose way what you are saying.

A running back with great focus on ball security is certainly not as likely to fumble as when he is not properly focused, but great focus doesn't guarantee no mistakes. No one is perfect, and the other team can force mistakes even from players who are playing highly focused. And sometimes, shite just happens, sometimes more than once in the same game. I can see a ST player 100% focused, trying his best to cut off a gunner on the punt team, and then throwing what he thinks is a legitimate block only to have the gunner turn his body at the last split second, making the block appear to be a block in the back (to the official). Is that lack of focus, or just an error in judgement in the heat of the action, or just bad luck because of the way the official saw it? That's just one play, but sometimes there can be several plays like that in a game.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 2:14 pm
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