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re: When did hating this country begin? And when did it become the 'Patriotic' thing

Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46698 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:04 pm to
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I'm guessing it started with the rise of communism in the 50s and then really took with Vietnam in the 70s.




Closest to the truth!
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50268 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:05 pm to
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the military industrial complex was an actual being within the federal government

This is a major problem.
Posted by CaptChandler
Polis
Member since Sep 2016
2427 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:08 pm to
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When it comes down to hoping the country fails so he won't be successful


I know that there are some who wanted him to fail, but I also know many people who dislike the man as a President but wanted him to be a successful leader.

There are people on both sides who are guilty of hoping that a president fails. I see it often on "this board" these days from our resident liberals. I've seen some of the most hateful and intolerant statements directed towards DJT on here over the past few weeks.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:11 pm to
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When did hating this country begin?


Marxism is entirely focused on deconstructing the host society.

Leftists are just Marxists at their core.

Most of the ones here aren't smart enough to realize that, though.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:12 pm to
I understand your point. I am trying pretty hard to root for DJT..because if I don't I am no better than many of the people I despise. I think I'll get there.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46698 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:14 pm to
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The Union leaders made be sick over it and that's when I slowly started turning Patriotic/Conservative.


Talking about unions, I remember in the Dim primary one of the largest unions (CWA)was against TPP/NAFTA and threw their support behind Sanders because he was anti TPP/NAFTA. This was also Trump's position but HRC was for both TPP/NAFTA until her peeps said you need to come out against them if you want to be POTUS. Now you would think the CWA would have endorsed Trump for POTUS just based on trade and illegal immigration but no they wanted HRC.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21879 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:14 pm to
The answer to your question lies in the socialist infiltration of our universities in the 50's and their ability to lead simpleminded democrats by the nose ever since. We see their efforts really take hold on Democrat losers, cowards, and layabouts of the late 60's/early 70's.

McCarthy was a lunatic. He was also 100% correct in his paranoia.
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 11:18 pm
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:42 pm to
Remember when we were attacked on 9/11 the country came together and we said "never forget", well, we forgot. Sad.
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 11:45 pm
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14352 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 2:07 am to
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For you guys, I would say it started around Obama's inauguration.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:38 am to

Gee, I don't have any idea.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 6:13 am to
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Gee, I don't have any idea


It's almost time to dust the old flag off. Anybody still believe that the right side won the war.
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 6:21 am to
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This board and this post equates disagreeing with Trump to hating America. I disagree with everything trump stands for outside of trade and I love America.


Bernie? Is that you?
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22516 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 6:30 am to
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I think they were the first ones that realized that the military industrial complex was an actual being within the federal government though.


Eisenhower's brilliant farewell speech warned America against the increasing reach for power by the M-I Complex and the dangers of that. He is not given enough credit for being a very good President.

Actual "hating" had its roots in the "Beat" generation of the 50s. Became full-blown during the VietNam era of 60s-early 70s. Went to sleep some after Nixon ended the draft and the war.

It's re-emerged in the last 8 years with a vengeance.

I think it may be going to sleep soon.
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 6:36 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112791 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 9:57 am to
Hating the country began in the late 70s with the advent of post modernism on college campuses. Truth is not observable because we observe through the distorted lenses of racism, sexism and homophobia.
Since the US is racist, sexist and homophobic the US should be hated.

The 3rd world is immune from hate even though they are racist, sexist and homophobic. It's because 3rd world inhabitants share something with blacks, women and gays. They are all 'the other'. They are powerless victims who must be championed.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:12 am to
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I only bring up these issues nagging me because I just watched 'Miracle'. Seems amazing the year before I was born, how much that win meant for this country. Seems it lifted up this country in a time of need. The chants of 'USA, USA, USA' meant something.



I was alive and 16 years old at the time and it was a big story but it wasn't any bigger than "kick 6"...it was a sports story...most Americans didn't even know it had happened...it was fricking hockey for crying out loud...outside the frozen tundra no one was remotely interested in watching it live....
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:12 am to
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America as an idea failed under Obama, MAGA wants the idea of America to be a reality.


In what way? name one example???
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:16 am to
Most Trump supporters love Russia not America
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:19 am to
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and those that rule, live like kings.




How is that any different in any society man has ever known anywhere? The ruling class ALWAYS live like king s because, they are, for all practical purposes, KINGS...


When America was GREAT according to the Trump bunch how did the ruling class live differently than they do today??? I know none of you can answer that because not a swinging dick among you can answer the question "When was America Greater than it is today"?

Trump has some very solid ideas...seriously....but y'all are devolving into fantasy...fence building, taking a lesser roll in the defense of our allies unless they pay more, job protectionism and isolationsim, deporting millions of illegals, increasing spending and cutting taxes...all great ideas and will truly make the nation stronger....but anyone who thinks that the ruling class is not going to continue living like kings is a fricking idiot, with all due respect....
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22546 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:23 am to
When Jug ears was elected. They were just emulating the acts of their dear leader.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 1/15/17 at 10:27 am to
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Don't try to pretend both sides aren't huge hypocritical cry babies when they don't get their way.


What a bunch of bullshite.

Can you point to one (1) event where conservatives trashed private property, intimidated businesses and their owners or CEO's (even their children)..made endless death threats and blocked other people from going about their daily lives or tried to encite people to violence, all based on the "purity of their cause"?

No?? the STFU and let the grown ups deal with things.
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