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re: How Republicans Plan To Repeal And Replace Obamacare
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:25 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:25 pm to BamaAtl
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And if they can't afford it
Make more or spend less.
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are denied coverage due to a preexisting condition?
Find different coverage.
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Of Trump voters? Surprised it's that low.
I doubt it, since it's from a chart you posted.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:27 pm to BamaAtl
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still no replacement plan?
healthcare is not the government's job
until we agree on this premise, we will never have a meaningful discussion
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:28 pm to BamaAtl
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So still no replacement plan?
There has been several plans out there for YEARS.
See Rep Tom Price of GA
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:28 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Make more or spend less.
This isn't some extravagance, this is health care. If you ask people to choose between food and chemotherapy, or food and a heart transplant, you've designed a shitty system.
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Find different coverage.
Not an answer.
Nothing you've said is going to minimize the pain that removing over 20M people from their health insurance will cause, or the trouble it will cause Republicans.
If you really want to own every minor failing in the system, have at it. But acting like a lunatic spouting Ayn Rand philosophies isn't going to get someone's aunt chemo that she can no longer afford because of Republicans.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:29 pm to Reubaltaich
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There has been several plans out there for YEARS.
Not a single plan that Republicans agree on that fit their own parameters - will cost less and cover more people.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:35 pm to BamaAtl
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This isn't some extravagance, this is health care.
Then it should be a priority in anyone's budget.
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If you ask people to choose between food and chemotherapy, or food and a heart transplant, you've designed a shitty system.
More emotional bullshite. Food? No. Cigarettes, expensive cars, new big screens, jewelry, etc? Absolutely.
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Not an answer.
Yes it is.
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Nothing you've said is going to minimize the pain that removing over 20M people from their health insurance will cause, or the trouble it will cause Republicans.
If you really want to own every minor failing in the system, have at it. But acting like a lunatic spouting Ayn Rand philosophies isn't going to get someone's aunt chemo that she can no longer afford because of Republicans.
This is why you'll never win. When all else fails, you drop some feelings on me, like it will work.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:45 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Most Americans could afford to spend less on food.
Food? No.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:49 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Most Americans could afford to spend less on food.
there are constant reminders of how badly obese the population is,
this ought to be viewed as a good thing
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:51 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Most Americans could afford to spend less on food.
Imagine the pain and suffering it'd cause if the overweight masses didn't get their McDonald's!
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:54 pm to BamaAtl
quote:What are the political consequences of 20 million to get off their fat Obama loving arse and get a job and pay for healthcare like the other 280 million that are footing the bill?
the political consequences of kicking over 20 Million people off of their insurance plans?
Posted on 1/14/17 at 1:05 pm to BamaAtl
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Not a single plan that Republicans agree on that fit their own parameters - will cost less and cover more people.
So now it goes from 'no plan' to one that the GOP can't agree on.
BTW, you may want to read Tom Prices House Bill. I have posted it here several times, I doubt you bothered to read or look into it.
LINK
Here is some more info on it:
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Title IV—Safety Net Reforms
Sec. 401. Requiring outreach and coverage before expansion of eligibility.
Sec. 402. Easing administrative barriers to State cooperation with employer-sponsored insurance coverage.
Sec. 403. Improving beneficiary choice in SCHIP.
Sec. 404. Liability protections for health center volunteer practitioners.
Sec. 405. Liability protections for health center practitioners providing services in emergency areas.
Of course no two people are going to agree on every detail.
But we know that obama-scam is a HUGE fraud perpetrated on the American people.
Here is something you have been failing to see in regards to obama-scam. It was INTENTIONALLY and PURPOSELY designed to FAIL.
It wan NEVER EVER about healthcare. It was and is about the acquisition of power for the 'elitist' left. They are all scum scalawags to me.
I have posted several times, along with many others how to get this thing going back in the right direction.
*Allow states(once again) to establish 'high risk' pools for those with pre-existing conditions.
*Give tax incentives to doctors and providers to treat and care for those with bonafide pre-existing medical conditions.
*Tort reform: doctors, RNs, providers...spend tons of $$$ on malpractice insurance and have to perform many expensive tests just to cover themselves from ambulance chasing trail lawyers.
*Repeal the McCarron Ferguson Act of 1945. This is a little known law that has HUGE implications. It has basically given us a monopoly of insurance companies.
This one act has virtually killed off competition on the health insurance industry.
*Repeal EMTLA. Hospitals have to treat any and everyone who comes into an ER, regardless of who they are. Many now use ERs to get treatments that could be taken care of in a regular clinic. Plus many are leaving hospitals holding the bag when it comes to the bill. And guess who pays for it?
EMTLA should at least be amended to treat only those who have legit life-threatening conditions.
There are other things that need to be done.
Yeah I know, tl/dr
Posted on 1/14/17 at 1:09 pm to cajunangelle
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I love that you replied first.
That's what they do when they know the end is near. They get in attack/panic mode like rabid creatures. bamaatl is on the government dole. That's why it's always so rabid. Those handouts may get pulled from its hands.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 1:19 pm to BamaAtl
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will cost less and cover more people.
You idiots always had free health care at the expense of American workers through our taxes, dumbass! I don't recall hearing that you idiots were refused health care. All y'all ever do is go to the ER for a sore throat, head cold, gas pains, too much purple drank, etc., and got taken care of because y'all know we'll foot the bill through the taxes we pay for your sorry asses!
The only difference now is that obama forced y'all's crap on those that work by fricking up our policies that we have through our employers BECAUSE WE WORK! That, and now we pay even more for you and your ilk JUST so y'all can "say" everyone now has healthcare.
Here's a new flash for you, dumbass, those that didn't work/refuse to work always had health coverage and they STILL dont work/refuse to work so they're still getting health care now but only at MORE OF my expense!
And please don't say they'll get penalized through their taxes, because you're a liar! They don't work so they don't pay taxes because it's easier for them to have baby factories and stay home and drive fancy cars and buy gaudy clothes and weaves off of the taxpayers backs, you idiot!!
So, answer me this, genius. How in the FRICK will y'all's garbage cost less and cover more? Where's my $2,500 in savings for my insurance? You lying POS!
Posted on 1/14/17 at 1:58 pm to cajunangelle
Step 12
Tell deadbeats to pay for their own insurance so the cost of mine doesn't go up to subsidize them.
Tell deadbeats to pay for their own insurance so the cost of mine doesn't go up to subsidize them.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:06 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Then it should be a priority in anyone's budget.
Not everyone's budget can accommodate the costs of major treatment. Should they be forced to die in America?
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More emotional bullshite.
Anything that disagrees with your 'logic' is "emotional bullshite". Pretty weak of you.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:07 pm to Crow Pie
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What are the political consequences of 20 million to get off their fat Obama loving arse and get a job and pay for healthcare like the other 280 million that are footing the bill?
Those 20M already had jobs - the unemployed would be covered by existing Medicaid. Most of what the ACA covers was the working poor. Keyword there is 'working'
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:08 pm to Reubaltaich
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So now it goes from 'no plan' to one that the GOP can't agree on.
If you can't agree on a plan (and don't have any specifics about a particular plan), you have no plan. You have talking points, at best.
Please link the part of Tom Price's bill that covers costs and the number of people it covers.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:08 pm to 31TIGERS
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free health care at the expense of American workers
Emergency treatment. Thanks Reagan!
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:14 pm to BamaAtl
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Not everyone's budget can accommodate the costs of major treatment. Should they be forced to die in America?
Work more or spend less.
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Anything that disagrees with your 'logic' is "emotional bullshite". Pretty weak of you.
Wrong.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:31 pm to BamaAtl
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If you ask people to choose between food and chemotherapy, or food and a heart transplant, you've designed a (bad) system.
So you admit the ACA is a bad system?
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