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re: Liberals: You have the power to aid your fellow man with healthcare...

Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:16 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:16 am to
quote:

808bass seems to think it matters what the color of a person on assistance is for the purpose of this discussion not me.


I do?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55558 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:16 am to
quote:

We are providing healthcare for all citizens?



While I do not know what form of healthcare system you advocate for, I do know a great deal of people who advocate for universal care and coverage - which is the stance that the OP is mocking. That is fundamentally different than providing care and coverage for federal employees like military members.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:18 am to
I would like to fix Obamacare and maintain Medicare and Medicaid.
And you give the op a lot of credit
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:19 am to
You should take this idea to twitter. Fun trolling. #IfLiberalsReallyCare
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55558 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:20 am to
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I would like to fix Obamacare and maintain Medicare and Medicaid.



How do we keep these programs and remain fiscally solvent? Non-discretionary spending in form of SS, Medicare, and Medicaid already take up an enormous portion of our budget and continue to grow at an alarming pace.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141659 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:20 am to
I'm not mocking their stance on Universal health care.

I'm mocking them for their blatant virtue signaling without any grand action. All talk and no walk.

The liberals made me understand my own virtue signaling. They pointed out that I didn't really care about abortion because I didn't beat up abortion doctors. They are right. If it was really important to me I would do more, sacrifice more. I don't.

The same applies with the cries about health care. If this is really important to them, they will do something other than whine and cry for more theft from the public.

They know it deep down. You'll see all kinds of deflection. But, the truth is, people like BamaSJW and others here don't really give a shite. That is clear.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 10:22 am
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:21 am to
quote:

I do?


Ummm...Well you posted this when demographics had not been mentioned anywhere else in the thread...
quote:

Why is that? Do you want to do a demographic analysis of it for us?

So ummm....
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30237 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:22 am to
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1. You are clearly upset that you can't afford these things.


He brings up a good point.

All I ever hear is that "I wouldn't mind paying extra taxes if it helps others". Then why not just donate that money NOW? Why do you need the government to tell you to do it before you do it?

I feel the OP's underlying issue, is that most on the left cry about unfairness and wanting to help, but only if it's other people's money.

Seems to me, if people are so bleeding heart and caring like they say they are, then perhaps they should take more action other than bitching at everyone else.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:22 am to
What's demographics? Is it race? There may be more involved. I mean not for you. It's about all you can think about (as evidenced plainly here).
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:24 am to
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Non-discretionary spending in form of SS, Medicare, and Medicaid already take up an enormous portion of our budget and continue to grow at an alarming pace.
Dude, it is a HUGE problem I agree. I think if we had an actual functional government though where both parties acknowledged that elections matter and worked with the other side then we could solve some of these problems and balance the budget without losing too much of the essential stuff.

Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:25 am to
So the logic is that I don't care about something unless I devote every last dime and every second of my time to it?

What kind of stupid shite is that?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:25 am to
And yet you live proudly in Louisiana. My lord man. Go read a book or something.

Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:25 am to
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Seems to me, if people are so bleeding heart and caring like they say they are, then perhaps they should take more action other than bitching at everyone else.
Yes there are annoying liberals who talk a big game but wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire in real life. There are also conservatives whose talk of reigning in spending only seems to apply to programs they don't use or care about.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:26 am to
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There may be more involved.
By all means then enlighten us on what you were referring to good sir!
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141659 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:26 am to
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I don't care
We know.

quote:

What kind of stupid shite is that?


The kind that points out that it's not really important to you guys.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 10:28 am
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55558 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:26 am to
quote:

I think if we had an actual functional government though where both parties acknowledged that elections matter and worked with the other side then we could solve some of these problems and balance the budget without losing too much of the essential stuff.



I think you place too much hope in a functioning democracy and republic. They have no incentive to act in such a way. Assuming you are close to my age, you better bet that neither one of us will see a dime of our SS contributions and we shall certainly never have Medicare.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4470 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:27 am to
quote:

You don't have to worry. Mexico is paying.


It's not surprising you think this - you've proven yourself unable to comprehend simple financial disclosures of the Clinton Foundation. You're prime Trump territory!

quote:

And it was used to build a wall...well that is kind of one of the actual jobs of the federal government.


Building a border wall isn't a requirement of the federal government in the US Constitution. It certainly is allowed, but not required. Similarly, ensuring mass health insurance coverage is not something the Constitution orders, but it certainly allows for programs like the ACA. Stating that building a wall is "one of the actual jobs of the federal government" but requiring health insurance is not is simply your opinion and has no basis in the Constitution.

You're real shitty at making arguments.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:27 am to
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So the logic is that I don't care about something unless I devote every last dime and every second of my time to it


Sometimes one must sacrifice for their strongly held beliefs. Be the change you wish to see,man.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:27 am to
About this dumbass thread? I thought I was hiding it so well.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:28 am to
quote:

So the logic is that I don't care about something unless I devote every last dime and every second of my time to it?


No. The logic is that if you don't personally sacrifice for a cause, you're not really invested in the cause. And the degree to which you sacrifice indicates exactly how much you care about the cause. It's pretty hard to argue against rationally.
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