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re: Liberals: You have the power to aid your fellow man with healthcare...

Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:09 am to
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:09 am to
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1. Start a giant charity. CAll it "we really do care" if you want.

2. Donate until it hurts. In other words, live in the neighbor hoods where you tell us you want to help. Buy that shotgun house on 3rd street by MLK. Sell your BMW and use that bus stop on 4th street by the nail salon.

Forgo that European vacation. Send your kids to the school on 5th and MLK. Yeah, that public school. Forget private school Do you know how much that money would mean to your neighbors.

Give until you can't give any more.

3. If you don't do this, you don't give a shite really just like I really don't give a shite about abortion since I don't kill the murdering abortion doctors.

You have the power to help your fellow man get healthcare. Will you make the sacrifices necessary or will you just continue to whine and cry and beg the government to steal from the citizenry?



Gator, that's way to much work. Much easier to vote for a Dem and pat yourself on the back.

Mom got in a discussion with a lifelong friend and staunch Dem. My mom challegned her along this same line of reasoning. Friend freely admitted that she doesn't give to charity, nor does she tithe to her church. She considers voting Dem to be her charity and her tithe. She literally said that.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5285 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:09 am to
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The notion that charity is a viable replacement for assistance programs could only be believed by someone who doesnt understand math.

You said that with such conviction.....almost like you believe these social welfare programs have always been in existence lol
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9853 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:09 am to
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Can charity replace social security and Medicare as well?


Want to take a stab at what happened in 1965 that caused the giant spike in Healthcare costs?


Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55559 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:09 am to
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I can certainly tell you that net cost wise there are more white people on assistance then any other demographic by the sheer number of the population.


But is this the case for the aforementioned states of Alabama and Louisiana? I know it is for the country as a whole, but that wasn't what was being discussed.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
22036 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:09 am to

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I wish conservatives would head down to the border and build the damn wall themselves and not steal my money to pay for it.


I'll happily donate my time and money for it.
It will save me money in the long run since I will no longer have to pay for the illegals who are here using our other taxpayer Government services.
It will also lower my healthcare costs since my cost will go down by them not using emergency rooms.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:10 am to
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2. The notion that charity is a viable replacement for assistance programs could only be believed by someone who doesnt understand math.


Really? Ok. Explain why this isn't a viable option.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:10 am to
If Louisiana stopped taking federal money, they'd be under in less than 5 years. You're a delusionist
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:11 am to
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I wish conservatives would head down to the border and build the damn wall themselves and not steal my money to pay for it.



Damn right lazy bastards
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:11 am to
Yea we should just do a collection plate at church to pay for TRICARE. If there are enough patriots in the country then surely our soldiers and their families will receive their healthcare!! U smart.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55559 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:12 am to
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If Louisiana stopped taking federal money, they'd be under in less than 5 years. You're a delusionist



This assumes that LA's spending would continue on its current course if this were to happen, which I find difficult to accept as a premise.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
22036 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:12 am to
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I can certainly tell you that net cost wise there are more white people on assistance then any other demographic by the sheer number of the population


How could that be possible.

White people are all rich and have great jobs because of white privilege.
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:13 am to
Mexico is going to pay for the wall. Your President, Donald J. Trump, did not stutter when he said that.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55559 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:13 am to
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Yea we should just do a collection plate at church to pay for TRICARE.


Surely you understand the difference between providing healthcare for federal employees and providing healthcare for all citizens?
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:13 am to
808bass seems to think it matters what the color of a person on assistance is for the purpose of this discussion not me. Hence my reply.
If the race of the people receiving help is the core issue to you or him then that is entirely your cross to bare.
Do the research yourself... With a 10 second Google search the notion became nonsensical on the national level.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49050 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:14 am to
Your "facts" and the correlations you imply have been debunked and discussed on this board for years. You think you found some cute new "fact". It's a trite lazy talking point. That is all you are capable of.

Tell you what...let's eliminate the programs that allow the south to be such takers. You in favor of that?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141681 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:14 am to
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In other words, not enough believers would actually step up to the plate, so we have to mandate and steal from everybody to finance our garbage plan.


It's proof they don't really care in my estimation. How could something be so important to them but they remain in their elitist bubbles.

Virtue signaling is all they do.

"Oh Sebastian, isn't it terrible that those impoverished Cablansians can't afford sex changes?"

"Yes, Simon, it's so sad. I'm literally shaking."

"Sebastian, what can we do?"

"Let's whine and cry from out NY luxury condo and get the middle class to pay for it all."

"Great idea. That way we can appear virtuous without selling the beach house mommy left me".

Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:14 am to
We are providing healthcare for all citizens?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49050 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:15 am to
So create a dependency...then berate for becoming dependent? Cure to government is more government!!! The liberal mind is fascinating.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
3302 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:15 am to
The OP is spot on. My liberal friends get down right mean and nasty when I suggest they start non profits and do the work themselves.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141681 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:16 am to
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Mom got in a discussion with a lifelong friend and staunch Dem. My mom challegned her along this same line of reasoning. Friend freely admitted that she doesn't give to charity, nor does she tithe to her church. She considers voting Dem to be her charity and her tithe. She literally said that.


This is their virtue signaling at it's finest.

They don't really care.

They also don't like being called out for not caring.
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