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French Qtr safety plan could include cameras that can spot guns through clothes

Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:26 am
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:26 am
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Cameras that can spot guns through layers of clothing — using infrared or similar technologies — may be included in sweeping new security measures for Bourbon Street to be proposed soon by Mayor Mitch Landrieu, according to several people familiar with the plan.

The cameras would be able to pick up on differences in the temperature between guns and human bodies, allowing officers to then focus on those carrying weapons.

The idea is part of a broader effort to prevent the type of shootout that killed one person and wounded nine others on Bourbon Street in November, as well as to avert potential terrorist attacks. But stepped-up surveillance of that kind will inevitably raise questions about privacy and constitutional rights.


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Details about the overall security plan have not been released by Landrieu’s administration, and it is unclear whether the high-tech scanners will end up in the final version of the proposal, which also calls for making much of Bourbon Street a pedestrian mall.

But several people briefed on the ideas being discussed said infrared-type cameras are on the table.

Bob Simms, who runs the private police details known as the French Quarter Task Force, said administration officials had discussed using the new cameras as they laid out the security plan and likened them to installing metal detectors. But Simms said the cameras would likely involve fewer logistical challenges than trying to corral revelers through security gates and might seem less intimidating.


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Several media outlets reported in 2013 that the New York City Police Department was testing the technology, though it does not appear it was ever put to use. An NYPD spokesman said the department “does not have cameras that would be able to detect concealed weapons.”



Not even NYC uses them...Being here in Louisiana I bet if this was implemented the cops would be scuuured to death to see how many law abiding (and non law abiding) citizens carry.
Posted by ndtiger
vicksburg, ms
Member since Aug 2004
8679 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:28 am to
I am always armed when I am in the quarter. You would be stupid if you don't.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135222 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:29 am to
So instead of going HAM on criminals in the FQ like they used to, they're buying expensive cameras?
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48958 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:29 am to
They're gonna have a lot of false positives outside the strip clubs


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Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
10943 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:33 am to
They can't even keep it from smelling like piss and vomit yet they're going to install and keep up with these super sophisticated cameras?

Also, it would just be the same class of worker as the TSA watching the damn things.
Posted by uptownsage
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2014
2156 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:43 am to
They should implement the "Broken Windows" policing tactic in the French Quarter. Maybe limit it to just the French Quarter and Marigny. Or in extreme cases, just the 100 block of Bourbon.
Posted by CoolHand
Member since Dec 2011
2084 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:19 am to
I go sleeveless when down there, so it doesn't matter to me.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14851 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:21 am to
Over/Under on time it will take for cameras to be stolen..

2 weeks
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
3999 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:22 am to
Stop & Frisk

/crime
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15401 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:07 am to
So I was watching an old episode of cops the other night. They were on bourbon street. Cop brushes into guy in the crowd and realizes he has a gun on his hip under his shirt. Arrests him for conceal carry. The thing that bothers me is that the fellow was claiming to have a ccl. They arrested him anyway citing he was crazy for having a gun on bourbon street in that crowd. So what I'm getting at is with these cameras. What happens to ccl holders that aren't even going into bars.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:08 am to
Sounds like an epic waste of money which is similar to Kip Holden's gun shot detecting software that was never successful.
Posted by StarkRebel
Member since Sep 2014
2175 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:11 am to
I have always concealed carried when I'm in NOLA but to be honest I always do anytime I'm in a city environment. Are these cameras supposed to make Police stop everyone with a gun?
Posted by TygerDurden
Member since Sep 2009
1862 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:16 am to
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final version of the proposal, which also calls for making much of Bourbon Street a pedestrian mall.


Can someone explain what the hell this is?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20983 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:23 am to
I think this would be ruled constitutional for the same reason license plate readers and CC cameras are legal- there's no expectation of privacy walking down a public street.

I don't entirely agree with that btw but I am confident courts would see it that way.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57576 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:30 am to
the only way cameras like that would get installed is if someone in the city government also owns the camera company
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