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re: Turkey threatens to shut down Incirlik and ground our planes

Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:29 am to
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:29 am to
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frick Turkey, Israel or any other country that wants to be frenemies.



Yeah I'm all about that action.

My only point here is that while we give turkey stuff, we use their airbase and airspace, and real estate to fight wars around the world.

There are certain parasitic nations that provide none of these benefits on meaningful scale.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:32 am to
How many billions have we paid in return for this "favor"?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:36 am to
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How many billions have we paid in return for this "favor"?


Who the frick are you quoting?

Why don't you go fetch some information for the thread like I did.

I swear your dorks have more opinions about shite you know nothing about...its 2017, go google some shite and make a point. frick.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27018 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:36 am to
A U.S. airbase is a huge financial boon to these shite countries. They are letting us use a piece of land. We pay for everything, plus pay them for its use, plus provide many direct and indirect jobs, plus protect them.

It's definitely good for us, but my response would be they should be careful what they wish for.

I'm not real comfortable with have nukes there, tbh.

We could just vacate the base and park an aircraft carrier or 6 right on their coast and say frick off.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:37 am to
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When does the press stop calling Turkey a "key US ally in the region"?


This
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:41 am to
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A U.S. airbase is a huge financial boon to these shite countries. They are letting us use a piece of land. We pay for everything, plus pay them for its use, plus provide many direct and indirect jobs, plus protect them.

It's definitely good for us, but my response would be they should be careful what they wish for.

I'm not real comfortable with have nukes there, tbh.


Yep. I'm not saying the turkish government is some kind of charity here. I'm saying we get tangible benefit from the arrangement with them.

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We could just vacate the base and park an aircraft carrier or 6 right on their coast and say frick off.



Can't land cargo planes on an AC carrier. I'm not sure you realize the scope and scale of injurlik airbase. Its massively important. You aren't replacing it with ac carriers.

I'm all about near total withdrawal, but I just want you to understand that we aren't replacing a land airbase with ac carriers.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:42 am to
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When does the press stop calling Turkey a "key US ally in the region"?


This


Turkey is a key ally in the region. Which should tell you everything you need to know about US foreign policy. Dont hate the player hate the game bro.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:43 am to
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good with me shut it down


Turkey is too geographically strategic to just leave.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:43 am to
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How many billions have we paid in return for this "favor"?
As a cost/benefit (assuming you consider our overseas adventures worthwhile)? Practically nothing.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:44 am to
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Turkey is too geographically strategic to just leave.


As long as we have such an idiotic foreign policy this is absolutely true. People are not grasping how much we do, and how many places we do it in.
Posted by TaekwondoJesus
Member since Dec 2016
185 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:44 am to
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they have their own F-16s


We have better pilots. I saw it on Top Gun.

Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17563 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:44 am to
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Can't land cargo planes on an AC carrier


A carrier doesn't need cargo planes. And for air ops, a carrier or two would do just fine.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:44 am to
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As a cost/benefit (assuming you consider our overseas adventures worthwhile)? Practically nothing.


this.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:45 am to
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assuming you consider our overseas adventures worthwhile)?
Lets assume I don't?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:46 am to
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Lets assume I don't?


Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:46 am to
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quote:
they have their own F-16s


We have better pilots. I saw it on Top Gun.

Turkish F-16s shot down a Russian MiG. Using the transitive property of college football

USA>>Turkey>>Russia


Print the shirts.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:47 am to
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A carrier doesn't need cargo planes. And for air ops, a carrier or two would do just fine.


You are killing me smalls.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:47 am to
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Lets assume I don't?
What about critical maritime geography and strategic deterrence during the Cold War?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73507 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:49 am to
I miss going to Pop's Leather in the alley, Incirlik was a good go to, but Effies beer is shite.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:50 am to
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What about critical maritime geography and strategic deterrence during the Cold War?
If I remember correctly we have to jump through a million hoops to get our ships through the Bosphorus. And I don't care about defending Europe anymore.
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