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Cali DMV licensed 800,000 undocumented immigrants under 2-year-old law
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:18 pm
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On the day that California officials implemented a controversial law that allows undocumented residents to obtain driver’s licenses, DMV offices throughout the state were packed with immigrants looking to take advantage of the opportunity.
Two years after the implementation of AB 60 on Jan. 1, 2015, an estimated 806,000 undocumented residents have received driver’s licenses, according to Department of Motor Vehicles statistics this month. About 14,000 of these licenses were issued in November alone, the DMV said.
The law has allowed undocumented residents to come out of the shadows and drive safely in their neighborhoods, according to Maricela Gutierrez, executive director of the immigration advocacy organization, SIREN.
“Many of them have been able to drive their kids to school and to run errands, when many times they were taking buses that would take them up to three hours to get from point A to point B,” she said. “It opened up new opportunities.”
One San Jose resident who applied for a license just a few days after AB 60 went into effect received his license in the mail shortly after.
“It’s a completely different feeling because you no longer have to worry about seeing a police car,” said the 46-year-old, who asked to be identified only by his first name, Ramon. “You’re much more at peace when you drive. You can drive long distances with your family — to Disneyland or to the Monterey Bay Aquarium — with confidence. You don’t live in fear.”
But as President-elect Donald Trump, who vowed an illegal immigration crackdown as a candidate, prepares to take office, the law is coming under renewed scrutiny.
How many of those regsitered to vote and voted in the presidential?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:22 pm to FrenchToast
Well considering all you need is a license with your name and residence to vote added to the fact that getting a license in California automatically registers you to vote, I'd say the chances are pretty high there were a bunch of illegals that voted in the election. How many? That's hard to tell.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:23 pm to FrenchToast
How did all these people get ID's. I thought Dems said getting an ID is a heavy burden on minorties.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:24 pm to FrenchToast
do these people even have to take a test? What are the odds they know driving laws/rules?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:25 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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Well considering all you need is a license with your name and residence to vote added to the fact that getting a license in California automatically registers you to vote, I'd say the chances are pretty high there were a bunch of illegals that voted in the election. How many? That's hard to tell.
Not hard to tell. Multiple 806K by the turn out percentage.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:25 pm to FrenchToast
Fruit doesn't pick itself. Good on the Mexicans for working!!!!6$$?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:26 pm to FrenchToast
Sweet. So we have the names and addresses of 800K illegals. Should be easy to find and deport them.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:27 pm to Sao
They have something called a work visa. They should abide by the law. Them being here is a privilege, not a right.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:28 pm to FrenchToast
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Critics also point to another state “motor-voter” law, AB 1461, that starting in 2017 will automatically register most licensed California drivers to vote, arguing it could lead to election fraud if non-citizens barred from voting in federal elections become registered. State officials said there are safeguards in the system to prevent undocumented licensees from being registered to vote.
The DMV said law enforcement agencies, including U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, can obtain driver’s license information — such as name, gender/description, address, date of birth and driver license number — through certain data-sharing systems. But the information doesn’t indicate their immigration status or whether they received licenses under AB60.
“The California Department of Motor Vehicles takes very seriously the protection of personal information for all license holders,” the DMV said in a statement Tuesday following concerns about personal information being released to authorities.
DMV officials also said “the President cannot unilaterally repeal AB 60 and AB 1461.”
California lawmakers have vowed to protect the rights of all immigrants, no matter their legal status.
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:39 pm to E12IC
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How did all these people get ID's. I thought Dems said getting an ID is a heavy burden on minorties.
It is fricking incredible how quickly that bullshite narrative falls apart
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:44 pm to TbirdSpur2010
It isnt a heavy burden but lets be real and all cut the bs shall we? Conservatives push voter ids because it will potentially impair voting for groups that vote against them. Liberals are against the ids for the opposite reason.
On both sides it is completely political bra
On both sides it is completely political bra
Posted on 12/29/16 at 5:46 pm to Tigerdev
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Conservatives push voter ids because it will potentially impair voting for groups that vote against them.
No, they follow the rule of law because it keeps us safe and honest.
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On both sides it is completely political bra
Tell that to Kate Steinle's parents.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:36 pm to Sao
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Fruit doesn't pick itself. Good on the Mexicans for working!!!!6$$?
What are you trying to say?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:38 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Sweet. So we have the names and addresses of 800K illegals. Should be easy to find and deport them.
How do you do that when they destroy the evidence before Trump takes office ala NYC?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:41 pm to Tigerdev
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because it will potentially impair voting for groups that vote against them.
How so?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:43 pm to Sao
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Fruit doesn't pick itself. Good on the Mexicans for working!!!!6$$?
You are anti- american worker and pro- big business and big agriculture
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:47 pm to Tigerdev
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It isnt a heavy burden but lets be real and all cut the bs shall we? Conservatives push voter ids because it will potentially impair voting for groups that vote against them. Liberals are against the ids for the opposite reason.
On both sides it is completely political bra
This is not true. Conservatives want laws to be followed. Liberals only want rules that help them increase power. It doesn't require a heavy burden to tip the scales sometimes, and liberals politicize everything to a point that it is part of who they are, and will do anything and everything to preserve their party's power.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 7:20 pm to Tigerdev
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It isnt a heavy burden but lets be real and all cut the bs shall we? Conservatives push voter ids because it will potentially impair voting for groups that vote against them. Liberals are against the ids for the opposite reason. On both sides it is completely political b
No, its about their legality. Handing out licenses to folks who are illegal just so you can get them registered to vote is a scam. Let's be real.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 7:30 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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They have something called a work visa
Then they would be documented immigrants.
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