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re: Need advice from O-T lawyers
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:33 pm to tigersownall
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:33 pm to tigersownall
quote:Ministries Doctorate.
do with a philosophy degree?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:33 pm to SabiDojo
quote:
Are you white? Look into being trans or genderqueer and look into your ancestry to see if you are part Native American. That's huge right now
Yeah, I'm white. I'm bi(almost tri)lingual and grew up overseas for a few years. I think I'm 1/64 Choctaw?? Might consider cross dressing and calling myself asexual gender queer. If push comes to shove and they start questioning it, I can file a lawsuit.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:34 pm to tigersownall
So You Want to Go To Law School
Old but classic
"I also want to work for Legal Aid. It must be so fascinating to help poor people with their legal problems."
"What's fascinating is - you will be one of these poor people. Except you will have $100,000.00 in law school debt."
Old but classic
"I also want to work for Legal Aid. It must be so fascinating to help poor people with their legal problems."
"What's fascinating is - you will be one of these poor people. Except you will have $100,000.00 in law school debt."
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:35 pm to mattytiger123
quote:
Yeah, I'm white
Welp
quote:
I'm bi(almost tri)
GOLD!
quote:
lingual
oh nm.
quote:
. I think I'm 1/64 Choctaw??
Dammit
quote:
Might consider cross dressing and calling myself asexual gender queer.
Boom. Headshot.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:35 pm to SabiDojo
TBH moving to a state with no tort reform and chasing ambulances might be the best combination of money and work life balance you can reliably get as an attorney at this point.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:35 pm to mattytiger123
quote:If that's you in your AVI, I believe it.
Yeah, I'm white. I'm bi(almost tri)lingual and grew up overseas for a few years. I think I'm 1/64 Choctaw?? Might consider cross dressing and calling myself asexual gender
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:39 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
law is closed for the season
Moose out front shoulda told you.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:48 pm to CorporateTiger
It's not a terrible life
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:49 pm to mattytiger123
Well unless you enjoy doing corporate transactions for 12-18 hours per day 6.5 days a week.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:50 pm to CorporateTiger
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Well unless you enjoy doing corporate transactions for 12-18 hours per day 6.5 days a week.
Sounds kinda hawt to me.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:04 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
"I also want to work for Legal Aid. It must be so fascinating to help poor people with their legal problems."
"What's fascinating is - you will be one of these poor people. Except you will have $100,000.00 in law school debt."
A friend of mine went to Tulane, was on LR, and has worked at Legal Aid for 5 years. While drunk she told me she makes $35k/year. I couldn't even eat for that little.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:04 pm to SabiDojo
Hey baby come securitize this transaction for me.
I give you gud HSRjob later.
I give you gud HSRjob later.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 3:58 pm to mattytiger123
1. The job market sucks really, really big time. Louisiana has four law schools that pump out hundreds of graduates each year. Most of the old entry level positions are now manned by paralegals, who will stay with the firm longer for lower salary, and won't split off into a competing firm after a few years.
2. You can still get a fine practical background from a non-top school. If you plan to practice in Louisiana, then consider that a local school will much better prepare you to pass the La. Bar, as each state's laws are different in some areas. LSU graduates pass the bar at the highest rate. Go to a "top tier" (expensive) school only if they will eat your tuition.
3. I don't think a MA in Philosophy improves your resume'. It is perhaps better than no undergrad degree at all, like me. Technical background like engineering or nursing is highly sought after. In fact, you may find that being a philosophical sort is a hindrance if your morals get offended by the conduct of others, including the lawyers you oppose.
4. Admissions standards can differ. It always helps to have good GPA, including grad school, and most schools will let you point that out in a letter.
5. Tutoring and preparation for the LSAT can help tremendously, some more than others, but costs don't equal quality. I teach Analytical Reasoning for a LSAT prep entity, and tutor privately. We usually do a low cost program at Southern in the Spring, underwritten by a grant from the school. Practice tests can be a fair predictor of performance, only if taken under the same conditions. With your grades and a decent score, you certainly will get in to many school. Harvard, you need a top 1% score or be a special case minority etc.
6. In general, DON'T DO IT. Law School, and the subject matter of law can be very interesting, but lawyers have some of the highest rates of alcoholism and suicide for a reason - actual law practice can be stressful and brutally unfulfilling, and destroy your family life. You don't automatically get rich, or even prosperous.
ALTERNATIVE ADVICE: Pursue it ONLY if you focus on Real Estate practice, as you mentioned, or Banking or other non-litigation area. That can provide a nice 9 to 5 job where you get a paycheck every two weeks and don't take the work home with you. Litigation against those other assholes gets old quick. If you focus on Real Estate, I suggest acquainting yourself with a title abstractor and learning how to do title research (makes an okay summer job too), and getting a license to write title insurance asap.
Long-winded when I get started, sorry.
2. You can still get a fine practical background from a non-top school. If you plan to practice in Louisiana, then consider that a local school will much better prepare you to pass the La. Bar, as each state's laws are different in some areas. LSU graduates pass the bar at the highest rate. Go to a "top tier" (expensive) school only if they will eat your tuition.
3. I don't think a MA in Philosophy improves your resume'. It is perhaps better than no undergrad degree at all, like me. Technical background like engineering or nursing is highly sought after. In fact, you may find that being a philosophical sort is a hindrance if your morals get offended by the conduct of others, including the lawyers you oppose.
4. Admissions standards can differ. It always helps to have good GPA, including grad school, and most schools will let you point that out in a letter.
5. Tutoring and preparation for the LSAT can help tremendously, some more than others, but costs don't equal quality. I teach Analytical Reasoning for a LSAT prep entity, and tutor privately. We usually do a low cost program at Southern in the Spring, underwritten by a grant from the school. Practice tests can be a fair predictor of performance, only if taken under the same conditions. With your grades and a decent score, you certainly will get in to many school. Harvard, you need a top 1% score or be a special case minority etc.
6. In general, DON'T DO IT. Law School, and the subject matter of law can be very interesting, but lawyers have some of the highest rates of alcoholism and suicide for a reason - actual law practice can be stressful and brutally unfulfilling, and destroy your family life. You don't automatically get rich, or even prosperous.
ALTERNATIVE ADVICE: Pursue it ONLY if you focus on Real Estate practice, as you mentioned, or Banking or other non-litigation area. That can provide a nice 9 to 5 job where you get a paycheck every two weeks and don't take the work home with you. Litigation against those other assholes gets old quick. If you focus on Real Estate, I suggest acquainting yourself with a title abstractor and learning how to do title research (makes an okay summer job too), and getting a license to write title insurance asap.
Long-winded when I get started, sorry.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:09 pm to CoachChappy
quote:
. I was thinking about joining the ministry and attending divinity school, but now I'm leaning towards law school.
Well that's quite a shift.
. I was thinking about joining the ministry and attending divinity school, but now I'm leaning towards law school.
Well that's quite a shift.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:10 pm to SabiDojo
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Most people do much lower than their practice LSAT's, but it sounds like you are in good shape.
I went the other way, Sabi. I was doing the old scale practice tests that were left over (it was pre-internet and, yeah, I'm old buddy, wanna fight about it), and the scant few early practice tests on the new scale. I was getting 38 and 39 on the old, and 155 to 158 on the new.
I took the LSAT at UC-Santa Cruz (don't ask) - and got a smooth 161 (I needed every point, too - I was admitted AT the index, exactly ).
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:22 pm to Ace Midnight
My GF went from like high 140s to topping out at 157 in practice to 161 on the real one. She should be in ads for Princeton Review.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:31 pm to Pettifogger
Law school is not hard, if you just want to get the degree and make your own way. If you want to finish in the top 10% of your class, it is very hard, and working for a big firm where you have to keep track of your time in minutes and put in a ton of hours, is not for most people.
I have had wild swings in my income, but I like law a lot. I have been lucky to mostly stay away from the stuff I don't enjoy. It is a cool gig in a smallish town, where you meet your buds at the same coffee shop, to start your day. I don't know what it would be like in a big city.
I have had wild swings in my income, but I like law a lot. I have been lucky to mostly stay away from the stuff I don't enjoy. It is a cool gig in a smallish town, where you meet your buds at the same coffee shop, to start your day. I don't know what it would be like in a big city.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 4:36 pm to mattytiger123
Don't walk away from law school, run. Law school is for suckers kid.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 4:38 pm
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