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re: Trump Signals that Dreamers can stay, will work something out for some illegals

Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:23 am to
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21129 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:23 am to
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If you were listening he's been saying this all along.

Again for the millionth (okay maybe the 30th) time on this board since Trump announced, Trump will proposes some sort of "touchback immigration" plan for "good" illegals already here.




I was listening. He said, "they all have to go."

Over and over and over again.

Then, he would say something different. He'd say different things to different groups. But, he'd go back to "they all have to go."

I heard him.

But, deporting them all was impossible. I knew that. I said that. I got down voted into oblivion here. So many here believe he would deport them all. I even wrote that he would have them go to their home embassy/consulate, register, and then get in line while staying here. That is the only "touchback" amnesty you're going to get. And, I'm fine with it.

But, there was no way of knowing that during the election. If he had been clear, he would have gotten my vote and the vote of many others. But, he would have lost the vote of the Far Right, which he deemed more important. It was a gamble. He won. I'm willing to play along.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119141 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:30 am to
I wrote this back in February:
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In the 2006 congress a bill called Touch Back immigration that almost passed the senate with 56 votes. 56 is not enough to meet the cloture threshold of 60 so the bill died on the senate floor. I think the bill died because the Democrats did not want the Republicans to get the credit in the Latino community for solving this problem.

So what is touchback immigration?

Touchback immigration is a process where illegal immigrants go to their consulates and receive visas and make themselves legal.

Now ask yourself what illegal immigrants would voluntarily do this? The answer is, the good ones. The people we want.

So it's a natural good from bad culling process. As ICE checks stautus they will deport the illegal immigrants that have not voluntarily and overtly acquired legal status and the "good" illegal immigrants that get deported will be able to acquire legal status if they desire. However the "bad" illegal immigrants will be barred from the US.

It is estimated 80-90% of the illegal immigrants will self deport and acquire legal status voluntarily and border control can focus their efforts on the "bad" illegal immigrants.

See how that works?

This is a good and fair plan, IMO.

Now if you listen closely and through innuendo this is Trump's plan (plus the border wall). It's political season and Trump would lose a good number of voters if he explained his plan as I just did. He has to sound tough because he understands that winning the presidency in the TV age is more about optics than anything else.


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Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74541 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:37 am to
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was listening. He said, "they all have to go."

Over and over and over again.



Page right out of the Art of the Deal. He really meant the criminals which he did say. Trump owns the media and Liberals. Just enjoy the winning
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