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re: Carrier Deal
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:16 pm to beachreb61
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:16 pm to beachreb61
quote:No shite, what does that have to do with a company being more competitive in say South Dakota versus some poor fricks operating in a higher taxed area? My cost per widget is lower.
You as a consumer are the ones paying taxes. No matter how you cut it, it's all passed down. It's economics. Jesus, the public education now sucks
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:17 pm to Robin Masters
A big concrete plant or metal fab shop definitely would
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:18 pm to Jbird
quote:
It was a good deal. Everyone who disagrees is an idiot.
I am sharp and my sharp senses suggest that your quote above suggest all that oppose the deal are idiots. I am not an idiot sir. I am an independent wanting the best for my country which starts with my willingness to educate myself on matter and not be influenced by media or even posts on tigerdroppings. Just giving you a hard time.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:18 pm to westerntigerfan
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I oppose government using tax incentives to prop up one company at the expense of other, usually smaller, companies.
Whose government? Federal, state, County, city, foreign tariffs or fex?
Whose taxes? Property, income, payroll, epa, excise?
Your posts read like an idealistic liberal college sophomore who doesn't understand how shite really works.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:21 pm to Jbird
Stop. That was an excuse. Rules come as safety precaution. Carrier is not the only company that operates in the US under those new rules. No others moved based on the new rules. Bottom line the move is simply to cut cost and increase revenue. This is a bottom line decision.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:23 pm to DBest
quote:The statement you claim I made wasn't mine, sir.
I am sharp and my sharp senses suggest that your quote above suggest all that oppose the deal are idiots. I am not an idiot sir. I am an independent wanting the best for my country which starts with my willingness to educate myself on matter and not be influenced by media or even posts on tigerdroppings.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:24 pm to DBest
quote:Which is why 6 out of 8 AC manufacturers have already moved if Trump's comment is true.
This is a bottom line decision.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:27 pm to BJones
quote:Could be their GDP going down from 6% annual growth to 4.5% annual growth.
HubbaBubba,
The Chinese stock market has crashed twice this year. I wonder why.....
Meanwhile, we continue to trudge along at an anemic 1.5% GDP.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:29 pm to Vacherie Saint
No, saving less than 40% of the jobs and then celebrating as if that is a victory is disgusting. If you try and only manage to save 40% of jobs you should apologize, not gloate.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:29 pm to Jbird
The rust belt has hemorrhaged 8 million manufacturing jobs since China joined the WTO.
WTF, Trump?
-Sao and westerntigerfan
WTF, Trump?
-Sao and westerntigerfan
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:30 pm to Jbird
I agree that any moves are based solely on bottom line that is why I firmly believe without having wages and tax breaks equivalent to Mexico these jobs will still move. Ten years places a bandage on the bleed. Bottom line, manufacturing jobs in general,I believe are gone. I jusy dont see how we get companies to stay. Incentives keep them for a while but the ultimately move on.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:31 pm to DBest
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educated myself on the matter.
So are you saying they are receiving Fed Tax breaks and not state?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:32 pm to Robin Masters
quote:
o you don't see any scenario where small comapanies would benefit from a large company being in the area? Please tell me how it would hurt a manufacturer to have a larger manufacturer come in close by. Be specific.
If a small manufacturing company is located in a town and pays it's full share of taxes, and then the town decided to lure in a larger manufacturer to the town by giving them millions of dollars in tax incentives it puts the larger manufacturer at an unfair advantage. The larger manufacturer could use the extra cash to attract better employees, it could invest the money in technology that would otherwise be unavailable, or it could simply sell the product that it manufactures for less money. All of these things would create an unfair advantage for the larger company, especially if the two companies produce the same or similar products. Specific enough for you?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:35 pm to Jbird
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Ah so you don' really have any ideas
I certainly cannot comment on the details of a private negotiation. No one here can. I can comment on the details of the agreement released publically:
They are shitty.
quote:
Yeah frick the deal that he got, better to send them all out the door.
These are the words of a loser. You sound like the UT fans ok with going 8-4 because at least you aren't "Dooley" bad.
When a president elect and governor team up to save 2100 jobs and they only manage to save 800 it's a failure.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:35 pm to westerntigerfan
My town is in the game to grow it's tax base, and create jobs in said town particularly if the economy is depressed locally and you have artificially kept your wages low, that's it nothing more.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:36 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Whose government? Federal, state, County, city, foreign tariffs or fex?
Federal, state, and local governments.
quote:
Whose taxes? Property, income, payroll, epa, excise?
All taxes
quote:
Your posts read like an idealistic liberal college sophomore who doesn't understand how shite really works.
In 37 years I have never been accused of being a liberal
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:36 pm to VOLhalla
quote:Got it lose them all or save them all no in between.
When a president elect and governor team up to save 2100 jobs and they only manage to save 800 it's a failure.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:37 pm to VOLhalla
What a stupid fricking, butthurt response.
How can you have so much hatred for people who don't share your politics that you would rather see 1000 people lose their livelihoods than give credit where its due? You are the same type of a-hole that cheered for a stimulus that cost the American tax payer nearly $300k per job.
Obama didn't kill all of the terrorists. Disgusting. See how fricking stupid that sounds?
How can you have so much hatred for people who don't share your politics that you would rather see 1000 people lose their livelihoods than give credit where its due? You are the same type of a-hole that cheered for a stimulus that cost the American tax payer nearly $300k per job.
Obama didn't kill all of the terrorists. Disgusting. See how fricking stupid that sounds?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:39 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
They received both. They received stimulous money as well.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:43 pm to DBest
That's interesting. Can you link the source of your information you just posted?
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