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We've hired the 'Tom Herman' twice before
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:26 am
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:26 am
Let me say 1st, I hope we do hire Herman and I hope were not being played. Having said that, under similar circumstances we helped Mac Pack and hired the young, up coming, offensive innovator and hot commodity, Bo Rein in 1980. Tragically, he would never coach a game.
10 years and several coaching experiments later we tapped another up coming, hot commodity, Hudson 'Curly' Hallman. Hallman, a defensive coach by trade, had riden a once in a lifetime QB, Brett Favre to Southern Miss's all time best record, while defeating the likes of Alabama and Florida State in major upsets.
His success did not translate to the SEC and Hallman ushered in the darkest of the dark ages of LSU Football.
This is a different time and Tom Herman would be inheriting a different program than Hallman and hopefully will have the opportunity to prove himself at this level, unlike Bo Rein.
As they say, third time .....
Geaux Tigers
Edit: Bold added to emphasize, this is not a knock on Herman. He's the best coach we could hire, imo. Just providing a little historical perspective...
10 years and several coaching experiments later we tapped another up coming, hot commodity, Hudson 'Curly' Hallman. Hallman, a defensive coach by trade, had riden a once in a lifetime QB, Brett Favre to Southern Miss's all time best record, while defeating the likes of Alabama and Florida State in major upsets.
His success did not translate to the SEC and Hallman ushered in the darkest of the dark ages of LSU Football.
This is a different time and Tom Herman would be inheriting a different program than Hallman and hopefully will have the opportunity to prove himself at this level, unlike Bo Rein.
As they say, third time .....
Geaux Tigers
Edit: Bold added to emphasize, this is not a knock on Herman. He's the best coach we could hire, imo. Just providing a little historical perspective...
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 1:41 pm
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:31 am to More&Les
*Favre
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:35 am to More&Les
Tom Herman is a member of Mensa International and you compared him to Curley Hallman?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:37 am to More&Les
curley hallman wasn't that highly thought of, we just didn't wanna pay for anyone. why do you think we stuck with him for so long?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:37 am to Tiger Vision
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Tom Herman is a member of Mensa International and you compared him to Curley Hallman?
How did I compare him to Hallman, other than Hallmans background at SM and being the hot commodity?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:37 am to More&Les
Bo Rein is a good correlation.
I don't see the Curley. The problem with LSU was Arnsparger departure and Archer recruiting. Archer is shite to LSU fans, but he was a good enough DC IMO. Curley was all Joe Dean. He had no place being HC at LSU. But when you're penny pinching and counting $1 black, it's all good right?
Some people have vision and foresight and some don't.
I don't see the Curley. The problem with LSU was Arnsparger departure and Archer recruiting. Archer is shite to LSU fans, but he was a good enough DC IMO. Curley was all Joe Dean. He had no place being HC at LSU. But when you're penny pinching and counting $1 black, it's all good right?
Some people have vision and foresight and some don't.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:38 am to RightHook
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curley hallman wasn't that highly thought of,
Lol, ok sport.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:39 am to drizztiger
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. He had no place being HC at LSU.
I agree, but he was a hot commodity
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:40 am to More&Les
You said "We've hired the 'Tom Herman' twice before", with one of those hires being Hallman. How is that not a comparison?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:41 am to More&Les
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How did I compare him to Hallman,
You just started a thread calling Corley hallman the "Tom Herman." Sport
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 6:42 am
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:42 am to More&Les
he was a name that got some attention, but he wasn't exactly commanding top dollar.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:46 am to More&Les
What about comparing Tom Herman to Kevin Sumlin?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:49 am to More&Les
you're comparing tom herman to curley hallman?
wow
wow
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:54 am to DanglingFury
As I said in my first sentence, I hope we hire Tom Herman. As I said in my last, it's not the same situation as Curly, I'm just saying we've been down this road before. Once was probably the best hire LSU has ever made, sans Saban, the other was the worst.
I think TH is more akin to us hiring Bo and hopefully this time he will live a long and prosperous life.
Geaux Tigers!
I think TH is more akin to us hiring Bo and hopefully this time he will live a long and prosperous life.
Geaux Tigers!
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:54 am to More&Les
I Stopped reading at More&Les.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:54 am to More&Les
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How did I compare him to Hallman, other than Hallmans background at SM and being the hot commodity?
so you compared him to curley hallman.
anything else you wanna enlighten the board with this morning?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:55 am to More&Les
Nick Saban did a lot with very little, too early on his career.
Herman may suck. He may be football Jesus. But if Jimbo isn't an option, is there really a better choice out there?
Herman may suck. He may be football Jesus. But if Jimbo isn't an option, is there really a better choice out there?
Posted on 11/25/16 at 6:59 am to RightHook
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so you compared him to curley hallman.
anything else you wanna enlighten the board with this morning?
I mean yea, they are both coaches that had success at smaller schools so I was also comparing him to Tommy Bowden before FSU, Spurrier before Florida, Urban Myer before Florida, Bear before Bama, etc...
My point was the 'hot commodity' tag and I clearly said the circumstances are different and I WANT us to hire Herman so I obviously don't think he's another Hallman.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:00 am to More&Les
quote:I agree somewhat.
I agree, but he was a hot commodity
But your real point is hiring X == unknown results. And to that I call bullshite because it's true for everyone, everything. LSU could pull Saban from Bama and we go 2-10. There are no guarantees.
So... what do you base any hire on? Resume, Talent, Fit.
If anyone doesn't agree on that, no hope.
Posted on 11/25/16 at 7:02 am to DanglingFury
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What about comparing Tom Herman to Kevin Sumlin?
I hope (and beleive) he's better than Sumlin...
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