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re: if women can abort their children, why can't men opt out of parenthood?

Posted on 11/21/16 at 10:23 am to
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36155 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 10:23 am to
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No. You seem to have deliberately ignored the point of my rebuttal.


No, I must have misunderstood it. I can understand the issues a man has with the current system. What I cannot understand is how the solution in the OP is either A) more equitable or B) better for society?



Well, we've already talked about why it would be more equitable. To some extent that seems obvious. There was a famous second wave feminist who recently died and argued exactly the OP's point of view. I can't place her name right now, but the point that this isn't a new idea is probably the bigger point.

RE: better for society? I have already argued that as well. For starters because we've tried the present system and seen it expand child poverty and single parent outcomes. In general I think it would lead to more thoughtful decisions and better parented children as a result.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55955 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 10:28 am to
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To some extent that seems obvious.
it's definitely obvious. Females can end their obligation as a parent. Men don't have that right.

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better for society?
This doesn't deserve to addressed.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85420 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 10:57 am to
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RE: better for society? I have already argued that as well.


You have. I disagree with your sentiment and think the opposite would be true, but you have articulated why you think it would be better. I should have addressed the OP directly.

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Well, we've already talked about why it would be more equitable.


A woman can back out via a medical procedure that ends the life if a child. You want a man to be able to back out by signing a paper. That's not in the same stratosphere.

Preventing an unwanted pregnancy is equitable where and when it matters - during intercourse. Even if I accept that abortion is the law of the land and swings the control to the woman at that point, this opt out only compounds the problem IMO.
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