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re: Hermans Offense
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:21 am to LSU GrandDad
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:21 am to LSU GrandDad
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you think? while i'm ok with that in a way, it does pigeon hole his offense; shut down the QB and game over. he did it to Louisville.
a lot of these spread first teams are not multifaceted. they may spread the D out but they overly depend on one player. I think a well run multiple offense, one that can indeed spread the field but also present a very strong ability to run the football is the best of both worlds. it also allows for changing the pace of the game with long clock consuming drives.
True, but I didn't see that last night. Ward ate them up through the air. Was near perfect with intermediate passes minus a few drops. The RB ran well. Ward ran very little in the first half. They avg 280 across the OL, so they are not going to pound you
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:21 am to sunnydaze
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This board thinks Scott is the next Manziel or something
I don't understand the hate for Scott but the praise for noodle arm Etling that some people on this board harp about.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:25 am to rob62
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Have you seen him play
I did. In the same scrimmage in which I came back and said guice was good as LF and that etling was nothing special
The other 2 checked out, haven't they?
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:28 am to sunnydaze
Good as LF when LF is at 80 percent then yes.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:31 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:This is all you need to know
You are stupid. HERMAN doesn't have "an offense". He runs what ever his players are best at.
His offense at OSU was completely changed when their qb changed. That's what is different about him. He's not married to doing it one way.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:31 am to PsychTiger
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When all you've had is dog food sandwiches for a few years, a fried egg sandwich looks pretty damn good.
Mmmm. Fricking nailed it.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:53 am to LSU GrandDad
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I think a well run multiple offense, one that can indeed spread the field but also present a very strong ability to run the football is the best of both worlds. it also allows for changing the pace of the game with long clock consuming drives.
Of Herman's last four offenses, this year is the only one where he's been ranked higher in pass yards per game than rush yards.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:55 am to Wayne Campbell
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I think a well run multiple offense, one that can indeed spread the field but also present a very strong ability to run the football is the best of both worlds. it also allows for changing the pace of the game with long clock consuming drives.
Of Herman's last four offenses, this year is the only one where he's been ranked higher in pass yards per game than rush yards.
And he's still run the ball more than passed.
Some posters apparently just see "spread offense" and assume it's the Mike Leach throw the ball 60 times a game offense.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:57 am to KyrieElaison
Houston rushed 33 times for 64 yards last night.
That is not going to get it done in the SEC.
That is not going to get it done in the SEC.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:00 am to nicholastiger
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Houston rushed 33 times for 64 yards last night.
Louisville has infinitely better talent than Houston. And Houston beat them like a drum.
Guice is not running 33 times and only getting 64 yards.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:01 am to nicholastiger
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Houston rushed 33 times for 64 yards last night.
That is not going to get it done in the SEC.
Yes because Houston has a SEC-caliber OL.
frick.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:05 am to Sprung
Oh yea the grass is greener in hermans pasture !
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:06 am to 5Alive
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Good as LF when LF is at 80 percent then yes.
Wrong...Leonard Fournette is a great back, but his inability to be patient to wait for blocking to develop is his undoing. He can hit a hole like a Mack truck when it is fully developed, but Guice is MUCH better at both waiting on the hole to develop and cutting back against the grain.
LF will be as big of a bust as Henry next year if he does not figure out how to wait and then accelerate through a hole that develops at a more deliberate pace.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:07 am to KyrieElaison
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Seems like he needs a mobile QB. Don't see DE fitting in. Would have to resurrect Harris or start a Freshman in Scott.
At Ohio State he lost an all-American caliber starting QB to season ending injury in preseason. Plugs in the backup QB who ended up finishing 5th in Heisman voting, but gets hurt at the end of the regular season. Plugs in the 3rd string QB who leads them to wins in the Big 10 title game, semi-final, and NC game.
I think Herman has shown he can adapt his offense to be successful around different QB's.
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 11:07 am
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:51 am to chris504
Remember that rookie Tom Herman sent his team against veteran HC Jimbo Fisher last year in the Peach Bowl. Houston 38 F$U 24.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:00 pm to Tiger Ryno
Exactly
He adapts and has his team confident in it
He adapts and has his team confident in it
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:57 pm to KyrieElaison
got beat by Navy & SMU.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 2:04 pm to 5Alive
He would be leading the conference in rushing if he got 70% of the carries (hypothetically speaking if we didn't have LF)
He has proved this year that he's arguably the best back in the SEC.
Again not saying he's better but to act as if the talent gap between the two is monumental is comical
He has proved this year that he's arguably the best back in the SEC.
Again not saying he's better but to act as if the talent gap between the two is monumental is comical
Posted on 11/18/16 at 2:41 pm to KyrieElaison
Scott would be a beast in Herman's offense. Look at what all the true freshmen QBs are doing in the SEC just this year
Hurts 10-0 - 2032 pass yards (64.2%) 16 TDs 7 ints, 735 rush yards 11 TDs
Bentley 3-1 - 835 pass yards (67.3%) 6 TDs 1 int,
Patterson 1-0 - 338 pass yards (59.5%) 2 TDs 1 int, 64 rush yards
Eason 6-4 - 1962 pass yards (54.5%) 11 TDs 5 ints, 1 rush TD
And these are true freshmen. For reference Eason, statistically the worse one here, is on pace for 2550 pass yards and 14 pass TDs. That's on par with Mett as a redshirt junior and better than both Harris and Jennings (both sophomore starters).
With the talent LSU has coming back on offense, and what new talent we bring in, Herman would be like a kid in a candy store. Scott with Guice utilizing RPOs and read option, would be freaking deadly.
Hurts 10-0 - 2032 pass yards (64.2%) 16 TDs 7 ints, 735 rush yards 11 TDs
Bentley 3-1 - 835 pass yards (67.3%) 6 TDs 1 int,
Patterson 1-0 - 338 pass yards (59.5%) 2 TDs 1 int, 64 rush yards
Eason 6-4 - 1962 pass yards (54.5%) 11 TDs 5 ints, 1 rush TD
And these are true freshmen. For reference Eason, statistically the worse one here, is on pace for 2550 pass yards and 14 pass TDs. That's on par with Mett as a redshirt junior and better than both Harris and Jennings (both sophomore starters).
With the talent LSU has coming back on offense, and what new talent we bring in, Herman would be like a kid in a candy store. Scott with Guice utilizing RPOs and read option, would be freaking deadly.
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