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re: Hermans Offense

Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:21 am to
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3514 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:21 am to
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you think? while i'm ok with that in a way, it does pigeon hole his offense; shut down the QB and game over. he did it to Louisville.

a lot of these spread first teams are not multifaceted. they may spread the D out but they overly depend on one player. I think a well run multiple offense, one that can indeed spread the field but also present a very strong ability to run the football is the best of both worlds. it also allows for changing the pace of the game with long clock consuming drives.


True, but I didn't see that last night. Ward ate them up through the air. Was near perfect with intermediate passes minus a few drops. The RB ran well. Ward ran very little in the first half. They avg 280 across the OL, so they are not going to pound you
Posted by j bro12
LA
Member since Jan 2012
1550 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:21 am to
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This board thinks Scott is the next Manziel or something


I don't understand the hate for Scott but the praise for noodle arm Etling that some people on this board harp about.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30098 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:25 am to
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Have you seen him play


I did. In the same scrimmage in which I came back and said guice was good as LF and that etling was nothing special

The other 2 checked out, haven't they?
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7665 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:28 am to
Good as LF when LF is at 80 percent then yes.
Posted by 9th Green At 9
From where they make gumbo at
Member since Jul 2015
2954 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:31 am to
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You are stupid. HERMAN doesn't have "an offense". He runs what ever his players are best at.

His offense at OSU was completely changed when their qb changed. That's what is different about him. He's not married to doing it one way.

This is all you need to know
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67142 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:31 am to
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When all you've had is dog food sandwiches for a few years, a fried egg sandwich looks pretty damn good.



Mmmm. Fricking nailed it.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6421 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:53 am to
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I think a well run multiple offense, one that can indeed spread the field but also present a very strong ability to run the football is the best of both worlds. it also allows for changing the pace of the game with long clock consuming drives.


Of Herman's last four offenses, this year is the only one where he's been ranked higher in pass yards per game than rush yards.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70989 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:54 am to


harsh ryno
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:55 am to
quote:

quote:
I think a well run multiple offense, one that can indeed spread the field but also present a very strong ability to run the football is the best of both worlds. it also allows for changing the pace of the game with long clock consuming drives.


Of Herman's last four offenses, this year is the only one where he's been ranked higher in pass yards per game than rush yards.


And he's still run the ball more than passed.

Some posters apparently just see "spread offense" and assume it's the Mike Leach throw the ball 60 times a game offense.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43801 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:57 am to
Houston rushed 33 times for 64 yards last night.
That is not going to get it done in the SEC.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116972 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:00 am to
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Houston rushed 33 times for 64 yards last night.


Louisville has infinitely better talent than Houston. And Houston beat them like a drum.

Guice is not running 33 times and only getting 64 yards.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:01 am to
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Houston rushed 33 times for 64 yards last night.
That is not going to get it done in the SEC.




Yes because Houston has a SEC-caliber OL.

frick.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4373 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:05 am to
Oh yea the grass is greener in hermans pasture !
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7008 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:06 am to
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Good as LF when LF is at 80 percent then yes.


Wrong...Leonard Fournette is a great back, but his inability to be patient to wait for blocking to develop is his undoing. He can hit a hole like a Mack truck when it is fully developed, but Guice is MUCH better at both waiting on the hole to develop and cutting back against the grain.

LF will be as big of a bust as Henry next year if he does not figure out how to wait and then accelerate through a hole that develops at a more deliberate pace.
Posted by chris504
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2012
588 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:07 am to
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Seems like he needs a mobile QB. Don't see DE fitting in. Would have to resurrect Harris or start a Freshman in Scott.


At Ohio State he lost an all-American caliber starting QB to season ending injury in preseason. Plugs in the backup QB who ended up finishing 5th in Heisman voting, but gets hurt at the end of the regular season. Plugs in the 3rd string QB who leads them to wins in the Big 10 title game, semi-final, and NC game.

I think Herman has shown he can adapt his offense to be successful around different QB's.
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 11:07 am
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13273 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:51 am to
Remember that rookie Tom Herman sent his team against veteran HC Jimbo Fisher last year in the Peach Bowl. Houston 38 F$U 24.
Posted by jamalsdeck
Member since Jul 2016
2818 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:00 pm to
Exactly

He adapts and has his team confident in it
Posted by bruce2129
Lewisville TX
Member since Oct 2012
475 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 1:57 pm to
got beat by Navy & SMU.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30098 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 2:04 pm to
He would be leading the conference in rushing if he got 70% of the carries (hypothetically speaking if we didn't have LF)

He has proved this year that he's arguably the best back in the SEC.

Again not saying he's better but to act as if the talent gap between the two is monumental is comical
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26785 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 2:41 pm to
Scott would be a beast in Herman's offense. Look at what all the true freshmen QBs are doing in the SEC just this year

Hurts 10-0 - 2032 pass yards (64.2%) 16 TDs 7 ints, 735 rush yards 11 TDs

Bentley 3-1 - 835 pass yards (67.3%) 6 TDs 1 int,

Patterson 1-0 - 338 pass yards (59.5%) 2 TDs 1 int, 64 rush yards

Eason 6-4 - 1962 pass yards (54.5%) 11 TDs 5 ints, 1 rush TD

And these are true freshmen. For reference Eason, statistically the worse one here, is on pace for 2550 pass yards and 14 pass TDs. That's on par with Mett as a redshirt junior and better than both Harris and Jennings (both sophomore starters).

With the talent LSU has coming back on offense, and what new talent we bring in, Herman would be like a kid in a candy store. Scott with Guice utilizing RPOs and read option, would be freaking deadly.
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