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re: Walking Dead or Game of Thrones
Posted on 11/4/16 at 7:29 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 11/4/16 at 7:29 pm to OMLandshark
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Do you really think that TWD will have GoT or LOST's legacies?
I don't think any of these will be remembered in 30+ Years. And the one with the best chance is TWD. TWD is on the way down, but it had a higher peak and a higher cultural impact than GoT.
Lost was more popular than the others, but it's also a product of the marketing and the mystery, the further we get away from Lost, the more it will fall. Lost has the least chance of being talked about in 30 years, and won't stand up to something like the X-Files.
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I just can't see TWD 30 years from now for being remembered as anything more than "that zombie show".
That might be enough for it to be more remembered though.
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I think GoT and LOST have created legacies that will have them to continue to be watched for decades to come.
That's a HUGE stretch. Your fandom is getting in the way. The ability to consume copious amounts of content is increasing. These things will be lost in the fray, regardless of how many people have access to them (and HBO's access control is a huge issue longterm. I think this will seriously affect GoT's overall legacy.)
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Even if GoT shits the bed at the end, episodes like "The Battle of the Bastards" and "Blackwater" will be long remembered. Watched two seasons of the Walking Dead, but I can't think of episodes that would be in the Top 100 Episodes ever made. I think GoT and LOST have produced several of them.
These are all genre shows, fans will hold them in high regard, fans of the genres will hold them in high regard. The public? Not so much. The public memory is fickle unless something is truly groundbreaking, none of these are, or have flaws that will keep them from that - Lost as a product of the moment, HBO's control over content, TWD's more volatile quality.
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Posted on 11/4/16 at 7:46 pm to Freauxzen
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I don't think any of these will be remembered in 30+ Years. And the one with the best chance is TWD. TWD is on the way down, but it had a higher peak and a higher cultural impact than GoT.
I mean, really. Not many of my friends watch TWD. I think Tyrion has a bigger impact on pop culture alone than it has.
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Lost was more popular than the others, but it's also a product of the marketing and the mystery, the further we get away from Lost, the more it will fall. Lost has the least chance of being talked about in 30 years, and won't stand up to something like the X-Files.
Here's the thing though: LOST was the show that got the ball rolling on serialized dramas. No way would TWD or GoT exist without LOST flearing the path for them. Serialized dramas were frowned upon until LOST entered the fray. Yeah the Sopranos was up there as well, and I also think it will be remembered 30 years from now. LOST was the show though that convinced executives that viewers wanted complex narratives and characters. The television landscape would probably be for the worse now if LOST never came to fruition.
Also this board has a LOST thread of someone discovering it every other week. I think it is aging fairly well so far.
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That might be enough for it to be more remembered though.
I doubt it, because using this low standard, I'm sure LOST will at least be remembered as "the Island show with flashbacks" and GoT will be remembered as "That fantasy show with violence". That's the worst case scenario for their legacies.
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These are all genre shows, fans will hold them in high regard, fans of the genres will hold them in high regard. The public? Not so much. The public memory is fickle unless something is truly groundbreaking, none of these are, or have flaws that will keep them from that - Lost as a product of the moment, HBO's control over content, TWD's more volatile quality.
I mean I think that each have produced 3 Top 100 Episodes of all time (in chronological order):
LOST:
1) The Pilot
2) Through the Looking Glass (Season 3 Finale)
3) The Constant
Game of Thrones:
1) Blackwater
2) The Battle of the Bastards
3) The Winds of Winter
As far as I'm aware, TWD has not produced episodes close to this quality.
This post was edited on 11/4/16 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 11/4/16 at 7:51 pm to Freauxzen
GoT and it's not even close. I like tWD, but at this point I'm just watching it because I'm already invested in it.
I honestly hope tWD ends soon just to get it over with. It's not like the show is building toward anything. It was a good run, but the main characters aren't even interesting anymore. It's just meh.
I honestly hope tWD ends soon just to get it over with. It's not like the show is building toward anything. It was a good run, but the main characters aren't even interesting anymore. It's just meh.
Posted on 11/4/16 at 8:55 pm to Freauxzen
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I don't think any of these will be remembered in 30+ Years. And the one with the best chance is TWD. TWD is on the way down, but it had a higher peak and a higher cultural impact than GoT.
Game of Thrones may still hold several Emmy records 30 years from now. It's not being forgotten anytime soon.
This post was edited on 11/4/16 at 8:56 pm
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