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re: A question for all-do you think LSU can do better than Orgeron?
Posted on 10/28/16 at 4:56 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 10/28/16 at 4:56 pm to Lester Earl
O is obviously about as good of a fit, personality-wise, as you could want. I've no issues there. My concern is that he is a DL coach who flopped last time he had a chance to maintain a program.
I'd prefer the HC to be a former coordinator, who in the event shite hits the fan (like losing CHavis) we can expect them to handle things.
O would require top notch coordinators. And those guys hop around and obviously many are candidates for HC positions.
LSU has a chance to really make the next bug hire for the next 10 years. I just hope they aren't as reactionary as some of our shrimp boot wearing fans.
I'd prefer the HC to be a former coordinator, who in the event shite hits the fan (like losing CHavis) we can expect them to handle things.
O would require top notch coordinators. And those guys hop around and obviously many are candidates for HC positions.
LSU has a chance to really make the next bug hire for the next 10 years. I just hope they aren't as reactionary as some of our shrimp boot wearing fans.
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 6:11 pm to cas4t
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My concern is that he is a DL coach who flopped last time he had a chance to maintain a program.
yea i see your point on the surface. But that was nearly 10 years ago. Lets face it, outside of recruiting, Les Miles left a lot to be desired. I think O is a lot like Miles in some capacity; will recruit his arse off and represent the program in an honorable manner. Yet will let his coaches do his job. And if he has the right coaches, they will put our top notch in position to win. Isn't this what everyone thought was wrong with Miles? I know that was the case with me.
Im not ready to say i want to hire the guy, he's 3rd or 4th on my realistic list right now, but so far he has done everything right. The way he is still recruiting is going to go a long way with the administration.
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I'd prefer the HC to be a former coordinator, who in the event shite hits the fan (like losing CHavis) we can expect them to handle things.
Again i see your point, but the guy has been a coach for a long time. And has been a recruiting coordinator at USC, Tenn, and at LSU. Being a recruiting coordinator these days is almost more important to building a program then being a good OC or DC.
I just think he has the potential to be a good fit with the way he recruits. Could he go to another school and say that same thing? Probably not. But at LSU?? Great fit in this state to attract players. It's really hard to frick up when you have great players and you can motivate them, and I think he can do that.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 6:37 pm to cas4t
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O is obviously about as good of a fit, personality-wise, as you could want. I've no issues there. My concern is that he is a DL coach who flopped last time he had a chance to maintain a program.
I'd prefer the HC to be a former coordinator, who in the event shite hits the fan (like losing CHavis) we can expect them to handle things.
O would require top notch coordinators. And those guys hop around and obviously many are candidates for HC positions.
LSU has a chance to really make the next bug hire for the next 10 years.
Largely agree with all of this. But even if LSU looks at and cannot come to terms with a list of elite candidates like: Fisher, Herman, Chip, Patterson, etc... even then you have an absolute star coordinator ON STAFF that you would be passing over to hire Oregeron. I would have to hear Aranda say on camera that he does not want the job.
And for me, even that doesn't make Orgeron a better choice than potential hires like Whittingham, Fedora, Fleck, Venables, or Fuente. Functionally my list of coaches before you start to prioritize Oregeron is more than two handfuls.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:52 pm to cas4t
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I'd prefer the HC to be a former coordinator, who in the event shite hits the fan (like losing CHavis) we can expect them to handle things.
How many times has a head coach had to do this? Les was here for a while I don't remember him ever having to take over for a coordinator. Never heard of Nick Saban having to do it.
Couldn't O just call somebody and say "Hey the guy we were paying over a million bucks is gone. Want a shot?"
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