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What kind of value could we get for Jrue?
Posted on 10/20/16 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 10/20/16 at 2:40 pm
Let's say he comes back in December-ish and plays really well up until the deadline.
He's a good player on an expiring deal with a shite injury history and someone could have his bird rights.
What kind of value could we get for him?
He's a good player on an expiring deal with a shite injury history and someone could have his bird rights.
What kind of value could we get for him?
Posted on 10/20/16 at 2:43 pm to Fun Bunch
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What kind of value could we get for him?
agents talk to agents
teams will know by the deadline if:
-pels plan to offer a contract
-jrue wants to come back if so
if either answer is "no" then teams will know that and can just wait to sign him as a UFA
Posted on 10/20/16 at 3:22 pm to Fun Bunch
I just went through all the teams I could think of that would possibly want him either as PG or SG and wouldn't need you to take back a bad contract in return. I think you're looking at a Future 1st like Ryno could have gotten. Maybe you could get a package built around a useful player like Vucevic, but either way you'd be punting the season unless our current guard are running the offense and defense well enough.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 3:50 pm to TigerinATL
I'm just trying to figure out how the next few moves for this team work.
We won't have much in the way of cap space next year barring some movement, so our moves will have to come via trade, re-signing current players, smaller signings, and draft.
So I'm just thinking about how can we move this current roster into a future playoff roster.
We won't have much in the way of cap space next year barring some movement, so our moves will have to come via trade, re-signing current players, smaller signings, and draft.
So I'm just thinking about how can we move this current roster into a future playoff roster.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:27 pm to Fun Bunch
I'd like to just keep and resign Jrue
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:30 pm to Fun Bunch
most likely sequence of events:
-suck this year
-select a high draft pick
-let evans walk
-re-sign holiday with bird rights
everything else will be on the margins (keeping jones/etc) and middle tier FA's
-suck this year
-select a high draft pick
-let evans walk
-re-sign holiday with bird rights
everything else will be on the margins (keeping jones/etc) and middle tier FA's
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:35 pm to Fun Bunch
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I'm just thinking about how can we move this current roster into a future playoff roster.
Repeat this offseason. Keep collecting useful players on reasonable contracts. There is some question as to whether Holiday will be an overpay or not, but you really don't have much alternative. Do we want to do for PG under Gentry what we did for Center under Monty? I think you either have to suck it up and pay Holiday or trade for a guy like Rubio and hope he can work in Gentry's system.
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We won't have much in the way of cap space next year
Losing Tyreke/Gee/Jones = $6.5 in cap space.
Galloway and Cunningham opting out gets you to $15.
Attaching the Philly 2nd to Asik gets you to almost $26.
Add roster holds and the #11 pick and you're at $23 million.
The real problem I see is who would they be able to spend that money on? Hayward is a pipe dream and Galinarri might be more injury prone than Gordon. Otto Porter Jr. will be an RFA. That's about it for wings. Dieng would be an interesting big to make a run at. He's an RFA and if the TWolves don't trade him they may not have much interest in matching with the other players on their roster.
If Asik gets off to a decent start I'd see how much sweetener it'd take to get Thibs to do a Dieng/Asik swap. If you could somehow do it without taking back Pekovic, Dieng's low $3.3 million cap hold would mean you still have $20 million in cap space.
ETA:
Asik/Cunningham/our 2nd for Dieng/Pekovic
Send the Philly 2nd and Pek to Brooklyn
Thibs gets 2 veteran defenders he will like and trust and what should be a pick in the upper 30s. They also get a cost controlled backup for KAT. If someone made a run at Dieng they might have to pay Biyombo money to keep him.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:42 pm to TigerinATL
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If Asik gets off to a decent start I'd see how much sweetener it'd take to get Thibs to do a Dieng/Asik swap. If you could somehow do it without taking back Pekovic, Dieng's low $3.3 million cap hold would mean you still have $20 million in cap space.
everybody's going to be shopping in the twolves outlet store. they are ridiculously loaded with young cheap players
Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:58 pm to cgrand
It's going to be very tough for us to acquire a wing unless we draft one next summer.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 8:18 pm to cgrand
Imagine if we could have gotten someone like, oh I don't know, Zach Lavine for Holiday a few months ago. Him and maybe Dieng for Ajinca. That would have been nice.
Posted on 10/20/16 at 9:15 pm to TigerinATL
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Repeat this offseason. Keep collecting useful players on reasonable contracts.
Right. The goal can't be title or bust. Just playoff picture relevance. Build the best team you can without mortgaging the future.
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Do we want to do for PG under Gentry what we did for Center under Monty?
Many, many, many more competent PGs than Cs out there. Considering they had Gordon/Evans, one could argue they should have (tried to) cut bait with Holiday years ago and gone with a Beverly type. Problem now is that they have no legit primary ball handlers on the roster. They need Holiday much more than they ever have
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Zach Lavine for Holiday a few months ago. Him and maybe Dieng for Ajinca. That would have been nice.
huh. interesting. not sure i would have done that, but i like Lavine and Dieng for Ajinca is highway robbery.
Posted on 10/21/16 at 12:27 am to corndeaux
if they plan on trying to use ajinca to make a deal if any kind they'd be wise to stop giving him minutes. he's impossible to watch
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