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What should LSU do if one of these 3 scenarios happen with Orgeron as HC

Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:41 am
Posted by SuperFanDan
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:41 am
Lets say hypothetically one of the following 3 things take place. (For arguments sake in all of these scenarios you lose Coach O if you publicly offer Herman.)

Scenario 1: Tom Herman has made it known through private conversations with LSU officials that he will come if offered, HOWEVER, Coach O runs the table including winning the SEC and a New Years Day bowl. (No playoff though because of 2 losses)

Scenario 2: Tom Herman has shown strong interest, but it's not a lock that he comes. Meanwhile, Coach O wins all remaining games except Bama and consequently doesn't play for the SEC but wins a nice bowl game.

Scenario 3: Tom Herman has shown strong interest, but it's not a lock. Meanwhile, Coach O goes 6-2 with losses at Florida and at Arkansas, but wins at home against Ole Miss and Bama and beats Texas A&M on the road. No SEC championship and a nice bowl win.

I think scenario 1 and 3 really put the search committee in a conundrum. 1 because Herman is a lock but you've got Coach O looking like a world beater and long term he's not a threat to jump to Texas like Herman.

3 is tough because Coach O looks good but he does have a few losses and also Herman isn't a lock. What do you do there?

Thoughts?



Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:42 am to
If Herman wants to come, you better sign his arse. I don't care if we win every game by 100
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:44 am to
Scenario 1: They keep O.

Scenario 2: They keep O.

Scenario 3: They explore options.
Posted by saint amant steve
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:47 am to
quote:

Scenario 1: Tom Herman has made it known through private conversations with LSU officials that he will come if offered, HOWEVER, Coach O runs the table including winning the SEC and a New Years Day bowl. (No playoff though because of 2 losses)


We don't have to worry about this scenario. I'm not a betting man, but I would bet just about my life's savings that LSU will not, under any circumstances, go undefeated under an interim head coach.

Scenario 3 is most likely. This team's current ceiling with the remaining 8 games is around 6-2. LSU doesn't have more than perhaps three, and even that number is questionable, guaranteed wins on the remaining schedule. It would be a decent accomplishment on Orgeron's part given the current state of affairs, but it doesn't warrant him being offered the job.

The key is long-term sustainability and returning to the status of one of the top programs in the nation. Are you really confident that Orgeron has the capability of making this a 10-win team or better on a regular basis? Because I don't.

I think he's probably one of the three best defensive line coaches in all football. He's a great representative of this state, but he has no business being the "CEO" of one of the biggest brands in collegiate athletics.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 11:50 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:49 am to
quote:


Scenario 1: Tom Herman has made it known through private conversations with LSU officials that he will come if offered, HOWEVER, Coach O runs the table including winning the SEC and a New Years Day bowl. (No playoff though because of 2 losses)


You Hire Herman.


quote:

Scenario 2: Tom Herman has shown strong interest, but it's not a lock that he comes. Meanwhile, Coach O wins all remaining games except Bama and consequently doesn't play for the SEC but wins a nice bowl game.



You go after Herman.


quote:

Scenario 3: Tom Herman has shown strong interest, but it's not a lock. Meanwhile, Coach O goes 6-2 with losses at Florida and at Arkansas, but wins at home against Ole Miss and Bama and beats Texas A&M on the road. No SEC championship and a nice bowl win.



You go after Herman.

Posted by 1999
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:49 am to
coach o is not a long term solution. he will be a fantastic interim and will probably win some games he's not supposed to.

i am in shock so many people think his is viable.
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:19 pm to
Coach O has only put together 1 staff while a head coach and his results were not very good at Ole Miss. Having the interim tag takes a lot of pressure off the coach. Should he have gotten the USC gig...maybe, but my primary concern is him being the "face of the program". I think he is a great recruiter/motivator, but I just don't see him as a front man.
Posted by TigerDom
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:49 pm to
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Coach O runs the table including winning the SEC and a New Years Day bowl. (No playoff though because of 2 losses)


If LSU runs the table, including the SEC Championship game, it will be one of four teams in the Playoffs.
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