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re: Les Miles-Lloyd Carr Comparison
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:59 am to MoneyTime
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:59 am to MoneyTime
It was time to get rid of Carr. The mistake was hiring rich rod.
Fsu forced out Bowden and promoted jimbo. It worked out.
See it goes both ways. Fear of a potential bad hire is no reason not to make a move.
Fsu forced out Bowden and promoted jimbo. It worked out.
See it goes both ways. Fear of a potential bad hire is no reason not to make a move.
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Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:00 am to 1999
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See it goes both ways. Fear of a potential bad hire is no reason not to make a move.
i.e... Dinardo...Saban
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:01 am to 1999
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Fear of a potential bad hire is no reason not to make a move.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS A MILLION TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:09 am to 1999
Carr was one year removed from the rose bowl. Which he guided Michigan to in 3 of his last 5 years. His final season was a 9-4 year with a capital 1 bowl victory.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:15 am to 1999
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Fsu forced out Bowden and promoted jimbo. It worked out.
Also Cooper/Jim Tressell at OSU. Cooper and Miles are very similar statistically, and both criticized for not doing more with elite NFL talent.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 10:16 am
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:25 am to 1999
[quoteS]ee it goes both ways. Fear of a potential bad hire is no reason not to make a move.[/quote]
It does go both ways, but more often than not, it doesn't work out well. Still no reason not to make a move IMO. But the pitfalls are there. Look at all these long tenured coaches:
Look at UTenn after Fulmer, UF after Spurrier, UTex after Brown, UM after Carr, ND after Holtz, Nebraska, Penn State,
Hell Bama was very spotty for a long long time before Saban. USC struggling to find another Pete Carrol.
FSU is the only one that comes to mind that has been successful so far.
It does go both ways, but more often than not, it doesn't work out well. Still no reason not to make a move IMO. But the pitfalls are there. Look at all these long tenured coaches:
Look at UTenn after Fulmer, UF after Spurrier, UTex after Brown, UM after Carr, ND after Holtz, Nebraska, Penn State,
Hell Bama was very spotty for a long long time before Saban. USC struggling to find another Pete Carrol.
FSU is the only one that comes to mind that has been successful so far.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 11:24 am to 1999
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Fear of a potential bad hire is no reason not to make a move
While that holds some truth, anyone not worried about our current president and AD making a football hire is not playing with a full deck.
List to us all the named football schools who made successful hires on their first try after forcing a successful coach? Now, list the ones who did. I know which list will be longer. Do you?
Acting as if replacing Miles will be easy, is a fools thinking.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 3:13 pm to 1999
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Fear of a potential bad hire is no reason not to make a move.
correct. Otherwise, you're just paralyzed.
If a program is content with 9-3, 8-4 and going to a decent bowl, then stick with the status quo.
But if a program strives to be the very best, you make a move. Of course there's a risk (there's ALWAYS a risk), but otherwise you don't even have a chance to elevate the program.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 4:46 pm to 1999
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The mistake was hiring rich rod.
or not keeping him at least another year or two.
they brought a wide open spread guy in to coach a team that was built to run the exact polar opposite scheme. the guys they need to run his offense are different size, shape, and skill set than they had when he was hired.
i said then it would take at least 4 years to get enough roster turnover to properly run that system. they only gave him 3 years.
then they bring in an I-Formation guy to run a team with very few I-Formation guys left on the roster. again the guys he had didn't have the size or skill set to run the type of scheme he wanted.
now with Harbaugh, it's not as huge of a swing from Hoke's philosophy.
So him simply being better than Hoke showed immediate results and should continue to improve.
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