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re: Get behind this team and miles!!!

Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46650 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:56 pm to
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Yet nothing to show for it.

Nearly avg bowl record and have you seen LSU vs the SEC west the last few seasons? Not even competiti


Sec title.
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So just keep settling with being non competitive and dropping 3 games every November??


Who the frickis settling? Are you under the impression that your acceptance level as a fan is taken into account?

What level of success you or i deem acceptable means nothing.
We dont make the decisions about lsu football, so the level of success youll accept is irrelevant.
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We are like top 3-5 in recruiting over the past 4 seasons or so.. and the others, FSU, Alabama, and Ohio St have ALL won a national championship.. we have't


Yeah because FSU plays in a shite conf with 1 other consistent football program (clemson) and Ohio State plays in a lesser conf than lsu.
Every single year lsu goes against program that have recently won national titles. Do you really think lsu wouldnt have won more titles if they werent stuck playing in the most talent rich division in cfb?

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We are like top 3-5 in recruiting over the past 4 seasons or so.. and the others


What? We were 6th in 2013 and 18th in 2012 and it showed in 2014 by starting so many young players.


I wont even get into that our recruiting rankings are propped up on a ton of 5 star skill position players that dont have near the impact a 5 star dlineman can have.

Just because a poster doesnt shite on the staff in every post doesnt mean he is settling. It just means they know constantly shitting on the staff, on a message board,doesnt mean the coach will be fired or that the decision makers care about what level of success fans will accept.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46650 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:59 pm to
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With the talent on this team, one loss is too much and unacceptable.


Holy shite. I swear its like some of you dont pay attention to other programs.

The best coach ( saban) with by far the best talent (5 straight #1 classes) LOSES TO AN INFERIOR TEAM EVERY YEAR. So please explain why its such a failure for Miles to lose 1 game.
Nick Saban never goes undefeated and he has more talent than lsu.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:24 pm to
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Nick Saban never goes undefeated and he has more talent than lsu.



Saban finds a way to regroup and win NCs after losses......Miles sits and twiddles his thumbs while Rome burns.....big difference.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 10:26 pm
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:31 pm to
I hope you aren't a math major. 5 years without competing for a west Title. 5 years ago LSU won the West. 4 years ago LSU was literally a few seconds away against bama from probabably winning a nc in 2012. 2013 and 2014 were tough....we went 18-8. Last year they were 7-0 and 4-0 sec, I'd call that competing. This year LSU is currently undefeated in the sec. At most, LSU went three years without competing, but realistically it was 2 years.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:42 pm to
Its not the way u start newb....its the way you finish. Nice cherry-picking on your stats to fit your agenda.
Posted by iluvbrokli
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2011
103 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:54 pm to
A few seconds away from winning a 'Chip in 2012? Yes...if 3600 seconds counts as a "few", then yes...we were a few seconds away.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 11:13 pm
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
4793 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:56 pm to
Agree
Posted by choke
Member since Dec 2015
791 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:02 pm to
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Get behind this team and miles!!! by RedTigerRulz
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Nick Saban never goes undefeated and he has more talent than lsu.


Saban finds a way to regroup and win NCs after losses......Miles sits and twiddles his thumbs while Rome burns.....big difference.





What do you do? Sit around and eat pork rinds all day long fatty?
Posted by TigerBert
Member since Oct 2015
3018 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:02 pm to
Always behind the team!
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:03 pm to
You can choke on my fatty baw!
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:24 am to
" I swear some of you don't pay attention to other programs. "

It's called tunnel vision. It's also called not being able to see the forest for the trees.

Even during this terrible period of LSU football, as some like to pretend, LSU is 15 and 10 in the SEC since 2014 which ranks them as the number two team in the SEC West for wins. Certainly, not where we want to be, but not sucking either

We have struggled to beat Bama as many times as we would have liked to. Newsflash, every team in college football has struggled to beat Bama LSU probably has as many wins over Bama since 05 than anyone but maybe auburn. Should we be happy that we haven't been as successful against Bama as we would like? Of course not, but let's not go all extreme and act like we suck because we haven't been successful against Bama

As for as this we shouldn't lose a game because of our talent goes, where do people get this crap from? Are we talented? Yes. Are we more talented than other any other college football team not name Bama? No. There is nothing that I have seen in the last three years, not all American teams, not all S EC teams, not the NFL draft, which has shown LSU to be more talented than a lot of other good teams.

I don't know why some can't enjoy winning without all the pissing and moaning like teenagers who don't get their way, but each to our own.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46650 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:30 am to
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Saban finds a way to regroup and win NCs after losses......Miles sits and twiddles his thumbs while Rome burns.....big difference.


Thats not the point. The poster said 1 loss is unacceptable for this team as if that's on miles.
Saban doesng go undefeated with more talent than lsu.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:13 pm to
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We have struggled to beat Bama as many times as we would have liked to. Newsflash, every team in college football has struggled to beat Bama LSU probably has as many wins over Bama since 05 than anyone but maybe auburn. Should we be happy that we haven't been as successful against Bama as we would like? Of course not, but let's not go all extreme and act like we suck because we haven't been successful against Bama


Here's where your argument goes down the tubes, as you try to pass it off as just not being able to beat Alabama. It's the same bullshite revisionist history people try to paint about Charles McClendon. We're not just struggling to beat Bama as often as we'd like to.

In the last three years (2013-2015) we have:

--lost 41-7 to an 8-5 team (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost 17-0 to a 7-6 team that had lost 17 straight SEC games (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost 31-14 to an 8-5 team in Tiger Stadium (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost to a 7-5 team in a bowl game (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost to a four touchdown underdog (NOT ALABAMA)
--needed a miracle 99-yard drive by Anthony Jennings to avoid a second loss to a 4-TD underdog in the same season (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost five games by 17 points or more and been blown out by 21 or more at least once every season (one was Alabama)
--gone 19-11 vs. Power 5 teams
--gone 14-10 vs. SEC teams
--gone 9-9 vs. SEC West teams
--gone 2-4 vs. Ole Miss and Arkansas (9-9 the last nine years which includes some of the worst teams in both those schools' histories)
--finished 3rd, tied for 4th with a team that beat us and tied for 3rd with a team that beat us in the SEC West standings, never less than two games behind the leader

And all of this despite the fact that, in every single year Miles has ever coached here, LSU has had a 5-year running cumulative recruiting ranking among the top 5 or 10 in the country.

The problem is a hell of a lot more than just not beating Alabama enough.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 12:50 pm
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
4471 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:15 pm to
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--lost 41-7 to an 8-5 team (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost 17-0 to a 7-6 team that had lost 17 straight SEC games (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost 31-14 to an 8-5 team in Tiger Stadium (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost to a 7-5 team in a bowl game (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost to a four touchdown underdog (NOT ALABAMA)
--needed a miracle 99-yard drive by Anthony Jennings to avoid a second loss to a 4-TD underdog in the same season (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost five games by 17 points or more and been blown out by 21 or more at least once every season (one was Alabama)
--gone 19-13 vs. Power 5 teams
--gone 14-12 vs. SEC teams
--gone 10-8 vs. SEC West teams
--gone 2-4 vs. Ole Miss and Arkansas (9-9 the last nine years which includes some of the worst teams in both those schools' histories)
--finished 3rd, tied for 4th with a team that beat us and tied for 3rd with a team that beat us in the SEC West standings, never less than two games behind the leader



Truth. The recent history us damning.
Posted by bababooey
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2009
1093 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:16 pm to
No.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:44 pm to
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No one said it was ok.


If it's not OK not to be as good as Alabama, then what can be done about it? There are only three possibilities:

1) Keep your current coach and hope he can improve the program to be on the level of Alabama. Do you have any hope at all that this could possibly happen?

2) Try to find another coach who can improve the program to that level. Difficult, but possible. Ohio State already did it. Many others are making progress.

3) Wait and hope Alabama will decline. Inevitable in the long term but they will only be replaced by someone else who didn't choose this ridiculous option.

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People realize that they dont make decisions about lsu football


Not directly, that's true. But eventually a fan base gets what it deserves because it deserves what it demands.

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Lsu DECISION MAKERS ( the fans acceptance is irrelevant) dont go all in on football like Bama.


Alabama administrators go all in on football because their fan base demands it. So do other fan bases. If the fans of a school demand an elite football program, they eventually get it.

Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:55 pm to
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Are we more talented than other any other college football team not name Bama? No. There is nothing that I have seen in the last three years, not all American teams, not all S EC teams, not the NFL draft, which has shown LSU to be more talented than a lot of other good teams.


Recruiting rankings and active NFL player lists suggest we are among the top 5 or 10 most talented teams in the nation. Those numbers are factors of raw talent and ability and are not influenced much by coaching. All-American and All-SEC honors are factors of actual performance in college, which of course is where we consistently fail to reach our potential. That is influenced by coaching.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 1:11 pm to
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In the last three years (2013-2015) we have:

--lost 41-7 to an 8-5 team (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost 17-0 to a 7-6 team that had lost 17 straight SEC games (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost 31-14 to an 8-5 team in Tiger Stadium (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost to a 7-5 team in a bowl game (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost to a four touchdown underdog (NOT ALABAMA)
--needed a miracle 99-yard drive by Anthony Jennings to avoid a second loss to a 4-TD underdog in the same season (NOT ALABAMA)
--lost five games by 17 points or more and been blown out by 21 or more at least once every season (one was Alabama)
--gone 19-11 vs. Power 5 teams
--gone 14-10 vs. SEC teams
--gone 9-9 vs. SEC West teams
--gone 2-4 vs. Ole Miss and Arkansas (9-9 the last nine years which includes some of the worst teams in both those schools' histories)
--finished 3rd, tied for 4th with a team that beat us and tied for 3rd with a team that beat us in the SEC West standings, never less than two games behind the leader

And all of this despite the fact that, in every single year Miles has ever coached here, LSU has had a 5-year running cumulative recruiting ranking among the top 5 or 10 in the country.

The problem is a hell of a lot more than just not beating Alabama enough.




Rick is not going to like this!
Posted by PanhandleTigah
Florida Freedom Zone
Member since May 2008
9405 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 1:46 pm to
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Miles has frustrated many of us over the years but overall he's been a great coach. Last several years we've been on a down slide. In the sec that's not acceptable. I get it. But he deserves a chance to turn it around. The players deserve us to get behind them and the coaches. We've got another lights out recruiting class this time with a super talented qb who will fit in a pro system to follow etling. Cameron went and got danny because he knew Harris may not be the answer. Etling will allow cam to open things up and if the offense keeps Gettn better and the D turns out to be elite like I think we may still have a damn good season. If we lose 3-4 maybe it's time to retire but if we win 10-11 he may have some left in the tank. Either way we seem to have qb answer for this year and next. I'm gonna enjoy college football and hope our team wins a lot. This may be a year where a lot of teams have a few losses so we might survive a week 1 loss. We have the talent to best anyone in the sec.
Geez, haven't I heard this before?? Oh yeah, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and next year someone will post the same thing.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
1822 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 1:54 pm to
Your accepting of mediocrity is the same problem the AD has.

LSU pays top dollar. We should expect top dollar results. OC is the highest paid in college. Tell me where we rank over last 6 years. Results should matter at LSU especially in football.
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