re: Stats on Wisconsin loading the box vs Fournette

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People freak out about 8 in the box, but the concern should really only be about a front that has more defenders than we have blockers.

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Slackster, I've been pointing this out for years. It will not be understood by most on here. They think the spread magically gets guys out of the box at no cost.

We had them right where we wanted until they beat us.

There's a trade off when facing off against a loaded box....once you get past the 2nd line of the defense, it's a big play, good chance of a touchdown as the free safety will have come down into the fray.

The theory behind it is that you make the defense have to play perfect at the point of attack. If a LB or DL makes a mistake, hits the wrong gap, or flat out gets blocked, it creates a crease to nothing but green grass and open field. 8 in the box means nothing, it's all about number of attackers(offense) vs number of defenders(defense) at the point of attack. A 21 personnel formation will bring 8 into the box, but will also put corners on islands against our receivers. In the passing game, it's great, because you'll either get man to man on the outside, or zone, so with play action, you suck the linebackers in, creating holes between the Linebackers and the secondary for the QB to drop the ball into. Problem is, defenses don't respect our QB enough to run man to man, because he hasn't shown the wherewithal in order to pick apart zone, so they never have a reason to call man to man defense.

it is just like how on 4th and 1 sometimes the guy scores because there is nobody deep. But 99% of the time they get stuffed


I dont see how anyone can defend the Iform BS over and over. (not talking about you 7th)

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I dont see how anyone can defend the Iform BS over and over. (not talking about you 7th)

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FWIW, I'm not defending the formation as much as I'm calling out people who see the defensive formation and go crazy thinking we should have passed the ball. It doesn't work that way.

If we come out looking like we're trying to pass the ball, it won't be a 8-man front anymore and people will want us to run it now.

I'll have to review the film, but are you sure it was man and not match up zone or combo coverage?

Honestly, against LSU I would run combo coverages against the majority of our formation, corners in man, zone in the middle, 1 safety over the top. Let my corners play on an island on the outside and give them help over the middle via the zone. Have my outside backers or the safety that's walked down linebackers playing hook to flat looking for anything going in to out in the flats. Give up the underneath, take away the deep ball.

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guess the point is that the amount of people in the box isn't an issue on its own if you've got enough offensive players in the box to block them. People freak out about 8 in the box, but the concern should really only be about a front that has more defenders than we have blockers.

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I appreciate your effort, but you will never convince anyone of this basic truth of football.

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And you've often got WRs blocking instead of TEs or FBs.

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If miss a block on a 190 pound DB, there's a significantly greater likelihood LF is going to run HIS arse over

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appreciate your effort, but you will never convince anyone of this basic truth of football.

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Fact lol

It's like you guys think defenders just sit there waiting to be blocked.

Lol