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re: Did Miles run this kind of offense at Okie State?
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:41 am to slapahoe
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:41 am to slapahoe
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erything after the J. Lee freshman year is shite.
What about 2013 with only time in school history with two 1,000 yard receivers? Is that different?
I do think it's time for him to go, but its naive to say Miles has always been this way. If he has someone he 100% trusts he's not afraid to open up the offense some. The problem is the QBs he's "trusted" aren't any he could take credit for developing, which is the biggest issue he's had at LSU in QBs rarely getting much better from Freshman year to Senior year. There has been little to no development in all the QBs that have stepped onto LSUs campus since 2005, which is just frustrating to think about.
QBs in Miles era:
Russell - started with Saban
Flynn - started with Saban
Perriloux - Miles [did see some positive signs, but wasn't around long enough to see any significant development]
Hatch - Miles
Lee - Miles
Jefferson - Miles
Mettenberger - Georgia and Junior College prior to LSU
Jennings - Miles
Harris - Miles
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 8:51 am
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:43 am to Salmon
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:45 am to monsterballads
right
its almost as if Miles has his own offensive philosophy that he has built his coaching career on
seems to have worked out pretty well for him too
its almost as if Miles has his own offensive philosophy that he has built his coaching career on
seems to have worked out pretty well for him too
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:47 am to Salmon
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Les Miles has his own philosophy, like every coach that has ever existed
So why hire an OC? I just will never understand why an OC would go somewhere and be told how to run the offense by someone else.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:47 am to Topwater Trout
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yes. It was but he had some good running backs. I believe Vereen and another guy. Also a great wr maybe Blackmon? could be wrong.
Justin Blackmon was under Gundy, not Miles
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:47 am to slapahoe
2005 Ok St fans describe Miles offense
To answer OP's question: see link
I recall myself they had Tatum Bell & Rashaun Woods, & went to spread quite a few times while he was there. Not sure why he turtled up here except 2008.
To answer OP's question: see link
I recall myself they had Tatum Bell & Rashaun Woods, & went to spread quite a few times while he was there. Not sure why he turtled up here except 2008.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:50 am to the LSUSaint
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So why hire an OC? I just will never understand why an OC would go somewhere and be told how to run the offense by someone else.
to call the actual plays?
do you think Miles is actually calling the plays? or do you think Miles sets the game plan and has the power to veto a call or make a call if he wants?
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:51 am to AjaxFury
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Point: Miles hasn't really had one definitive system from what I've seen. He seems to be able to really maximize the talent of the personnel.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:56 am to monsterballads
first play toss left. Got stoned time after time. In fairness, Nebraska had a top D in the mid 90s with multiple NFL'ers (Wistrom, Peters, etc)
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:56 am to Salmon
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do you think Miles is actually calling the plays?
miles has certain calls cam is allowed to call and miles screens them as the play is called.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:57 am to slapahoe
Miles hasn't ran the same offense here.
Jimbo: what you now see st FSU
Crowton: what I call the 'Texas spread' (think Colt McCoy)
Stud: smash ball
Cam: the Al Davis offense (run & go deep)
Jimbo: what you now see st FSU
Crowton: what I call the 'Texas spread' (think Colt McCoy)
Stud: smash ball
Cam: the Al Davis offense (run & go deep)
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:58 am to AjaxFury
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Tatum Bell & Rashaun Woods
that is who I was trying to remember. Woods was pretty damn good so was bell and the other rb was morency
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:01 am to slapahoe
Interesting you mentioned Miles at Okie State. When LSU played Iowa in Saban's last game at Orlando, I sat next to a guy from OU (his wife was an LSU alum) so he pulls for LSU as well. Anyway, he told me that he hoped and pray that LSU does not select Miles cause we would be sorry if we did. He would F up LSU big time. It took sometime but he was correct.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:07 am to RoaringTiger33
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Jimbo: what you now see st FSU
FSU offense looks more open than what he ran at LSU, with the possible exception of 2001.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:09 am to monsterballads
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miles has certain calls cam is allowed to call and miles screens them as the play is called.
quote:
or do you think Miles sets the game plan and has the power to veto a call or make a call if he wants?
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:13 am to Topwater Trout
Miles was HC in 2003 when Josh Fields threw 7 TD in a game. I'll be excited if Harris throws 7 TD this year
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:17 am to gxtigs1
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Anyway, he told me that he hoped and pray that LSU does not select Miles cause we would be sorry if we did. He would F up LSU big time. It took sometime but he was correct.
Wow after just a decade he is proven correct! A prophet.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:26 am to slapahoe
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A decade ago Mike Gundy and Josh Henson would sit in the Oklahoma State offensive meeting room and draw up plays they knew their boss would never run. That boss was Cowboys head coach Les Miles.
Henson coached tight ends and Gundy was offensive coordinator. But Miles called the shots, of which there were few downfield in an offense that had its roots in the power running game Miles learned as an offensive lineman under Bo Schembechler at Michigan.
Henson and Gundy’s ideas “would go on deaf ears with Les,” Gundy said here this week, “because it didn’t involve two tight ends and a fullback.”
Henson and Gundy weren’t alone in their thinking. Henson, now Missouri’s offensive coordinator, said part of OSU’s staff wanted more spread formations, more deep passes to stretch defenses vertically.
“We felt like we had pretty good personnel with three or four wide receivers,” Henson said. “But you have to be who you are in this job. I know that sounds so cliché, but that’s not who Les Miles was.”
LINK
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:29 am to monsterballads
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1995 vs nebraska... check out that series of play calls
Jeebus. 2nd play.
Motion bringing extra defender to the side you plan to run the ball. And sure as frick, just like this past Saturday, the guy brought over made the initial contact that blew the play up.
I think when that moron draws it up, he imagines it's bringing an extra blocker. I don't know what the frick he thinks defenses do.
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