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re: Brock Turner (Stanford Rapist) to be released from jail this Friday
Posted on 8/31/16 at 4:52 pm to ThatMakesSense
Posted on 8/31/16 at 4:52 pm to ThatMakesSense
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What I mean is, the aggressor may not know what constitutes right or wrong because of lack of experience.
WTF???
how fricking old does a person need to be to know that putting their dick in a girl who is passed the frick out is 100% wrong and completely immoral?
This post was edited on 8/31/16 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 8/31/16 at 4:53 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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It was a feminist cause celebre and rightfully so. That judge essentially declared open season on women.
yes, admitting that they have agency has to be a tough row to hoe.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 5:26 pm to Dr RC
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putting their dick in a girl
Again, that did not happen in this case.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 1:27 am to Evolved Simian
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Again, that did not happen in this case.
Does it really matter what unwanted thing was forced into a passed out woman past potential STDs and/or pregnancy though? Yes, on some level it's not same thing. Finger rape isn't technically the same as dick rape. However, for some reason some people only want to count dick rape as real rape even though at the end of the day you are still left w/a person that had an unwanted object forcefully put in them so I don't see too much of a reason to make a distinction. When digital rape gets viewed as not rape rape we get shite like this.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 1:39 am to Dr RC
Yes, it matters a lot. It's a main point in the thread. He got a ridiculously light sentence because California doesn't define it as rape and sexual assault charges don't carry the same sentence.
This post was edited on 9/1/16 at 1:43 am
Posted on 9/1/16 at 6:11 am to Evolved Simian
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Yes, it matters a lot. It's a main point in the thread. He got a ridiculously light sentence because California doesn't define it as rape and sexual assault charges don't carry the same sentence.
What you're saying is not accurate. The prosecutor recommended six years.
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The punishment does not fit the crime,” the District Attorney said. “The predatory offender has failed to take responsibility, failed to show remorse and failed to tell the truth. The sentence does not factor in the true seriousness of this sexual assault, or the victim’s ongoing trauma. Campus rape is no different than off-campus rape. Rape is rape. And I will prosecute it as such.” The sentence follows a trial and a jury’s verdict in late March that found Turner guilty of three felony charges: assault with intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person, and penetration of an unconscious person.
But probation officials, who see hundreds of less remorseful defendants, had it right. Turner should be given six months in county jail. He is not, as the prosecution has it, "a continued threat to the community." Why do I say that? The probation people cite his lack of a criminal record and what they see as genuine remorse. His attorneys have argued that the ex-swimmer has a record of real accomplishment.
The judge went out of his way to help the dude.
This post was edited on 9/1/16 at 6:13 am
Posted on 9/1/16 at 6:30 am to Mo Jeaux
Out of his way as in deviated from his norm.
LINK
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Turner, from Dayton, Ohio, admitted to fingering her, but claimed it was consensual. A jury disagreed and convicted him of assault with intent to commit rape of an intoxicated woman, sexually penetrating an intoxicated person with a foreign object and sexually penetrating an unconscious person with a foreign object.
Instead of sentencing him to the minimum of two years in state prison prescribed by law, Persky made an exception for Turner, determining that his case was “unusual” and that prison would have a “severe impact” on him. After the victim’s impact statement went viral, the judge’s controversial sentencing decision, which will result in Turner spending three months in jail, received international scorn.
Critics slammed the judge for being sympathetic to Turner and concluding that there was “less moral culpability” because he was intoxicated at the time. Persky is now facing a recall campaign led by a Stanford law professor, and lawmakers have called for an investigation.
Court documents show that although the allegations in Ramirez’s case mirror the Stanford assault in several ways, the defendant had a very different experience at multiple stages of the court process.
LINK
Posted on 9/1/16 at 6:34 am to tigerpimpbot
One other case with "similarities" makes a "norm"? Hardly. Also, I'm not sure they should have used the phrase "prescribed by law".
Posted on 9/1/16 at 6:48 am to Mo Jeaux
We can argue semantics all day but the fact is that the judge himself said the case was "unusual" in carving out his sentence.
He went out of his way to make an exception for this kid and now the people are going to recall him and vote him out in November, the will of the people and all.
He went out of his way to make an exception for this kid and now the people are going to recall him and vote him out in November, the will of the people and all.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 7:02 am to tigerpimpbot
But semantics are important. Cases are driven by facts. If this case was unusual, why are you advocating for it to be treated in a usual manner?
Posted on 9/1/16 at 7:16 am to Mo Jeaux
I don't think the case was unusual. I think the judge's light sentence was unusual. Not sure what you are talking about.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 7:23 am to Evolved Simian
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He got a ridiculously light sentence because California doesn't define it as rape and sexual assault charges don't carry the same sentence.
You mean didn't. California lawmakers unanimously voted to immediately change that law. If he did it today, it is the same as dick rape.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 7:23 am to FiddleHead
Rape? Or sexual assault what happened did He just guilty of a grope?
Posted on 9/1/16 at 7:33 am to Cracker
He was convicted of digitally penetrating her
Posted on 9/1/16 at 3:47 pm to FiddleHead
Hopefully someone shoots him in the face.
Posted on 9/1/16 at 4:06 pm to tigerpimpbot
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Link? Stop tarding up this thread
My source is Mark Gerigous (sp)
Posted on 9/1/16 at 4:15 pm to tigerpimpbot
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The judge went out of his way to help the dude.
hmmm....
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But probation officials, who see hundreds of less remorseful defendants, had it right. Turner should be given six months in county jail. He is not, as the prosecution has it, "a continued threat to the community." Why do I say that? The probation people cite his lack of a criminal record and what they see as genuine remorse. His attorneys have argued that the ex-swimmer has a record of real accomplishment.
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