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The Browns Made 6 first-round picks from 2011-2014. Now NONE are on the Roster
Posted on 8/27/16 at 2:10 am
Posted on 8/27/16 at 2:10 am
Justin Gilbert just traded....holy hell
This post was edited on 9/3/16 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 8/27/16 at 2:38 am to Jack Ruby
frick on the roster, how many are still in the league?
ETA: Richardson and Manziel likely never play another down and Weeden is on the wrong side of 30 and third on the Texans depth chart behind.....Tom Savage.
ETA: Richardson and Manziel likely never play another down and Weeden is on the wrong side of 30 and third on the Texans depth chart behind.....Tom Savage.
This post was edited on 8/27/16 at 3:54 am
Posted on 8/27/16 at 4:42 am to Jack Ruby
Gilbert's been mediocre at best in his first two seasons, as well.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 7:15 am to SpartyGator
For comparison, here's the Saints 2011-2014 1st round picks:
2011-Cam Jordan
2011-Mark Ingram
2012-traded for Mark Ingram
2013-Kenny Vacarro
2014-Brandin Cooks
as bad as we've drafted lately, at least we still have 4 starters from that period.
2011-Cam Jordan
2011-Mark Ingram
2012-traded for Mark Ingram
2013-Kenny Vacarro
2014-Brandin Cooks
as bad as we've drafted lately, at least we still have 4 starters from that period.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 8:13 am to saintsfan92612
We do ok in the first round, but beyond that, we fail.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 8:32 am to tenderfoot tigah
quote:Really?
We do ok in the first round, but beyond that, we fail.
The complaint I've always heard is that we don't draft well in the first round.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 8:42 am to Hoodoo Man
meh, we've actually had much more hits than misses this millennium:
Deuce McAllister
Donte Stallworth
Charles Grant
Jonathan Sullivan
Will Smith
Jammal Brown
Reggie Bush
Robert Meachem
Sedrick Ellis
Malcolm Jenkins
Patrick Robinson
Cam Jordan
Mark Ingram
Kenny Vaccaro
Brandin Cooks
Andrus Peat
Stephone Anthony
Sheldon Rankins
18 picks. Only 3 were really busts (so far) with Sullivan, Ellis, and Robinson. 4 Pro-Bowlers and a handful of solid guys.
Of the rest,
Deuce McAllister
Donte Stallworth
Charles Grant
Jonathan Sullivan
Will Smith
Jammal Brown
Reggie Bush
Robert Meachem
Sedrick Ellis
Malcolm Jenkins
Patrick Robinson
Cam Jordan
Mark Ingram
Kenny Vaccaro
Brandin Cooks
Andrus Peat
Stephone Anthony
Sheldon Rankins
18 picks. Only 3 were really busts (so far) with Sullivan, Ellis, and Robinson. 4 Pro-Bowlers and a handful of solid guys.
Of the rest,
Posted on 8/27/16 at 8:42 am to Hoodoo Man
the good teams are teams that can draft the mid rounds like the seahawks and patriots
Posted on 8/27/16 at 8:43 am to saintsfan92612
quote:True, but who else was available at positions of need when the Saints made those choices?
as bad as we've drafted lately, at least we still have 4 starters from that period.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 8:57 am to Jack Ruby
Just for fun, here are the 3 players picked after the Browns 6 first rounds picks from 2011-2014 (Pro-Bowlers in bold):
2011-Browns drafted DT Phil Taylor
next 3: OT Anthony Costanzo, OG Danny Watkins, DE Cameron Jordan
2012-Browns drafted RB Trent Richardson
next 3: OT Matt Kalil, WR Justin Blackmon, CB Morris Claiborne
2012-Browns drafted QB Brandon Weeden
next 3: OT Riley Reiff, OG David DeCastro, LB Dont'a Hightower
2013-Browns drafted DE/LB Barkevious Mingo
next 3: OG Jonathan Cooper, WR Tavon Austin, CB Dee Milliner
2014-Browns drafted CB Justin Gilbert
next 5: LB Anthony Barr, TE Eric Ebron, OT Taylor Lewan, WR Odell Beckham, DT Aaron Donald
2014-Browns drafted QB Johnny Manziel
next 3: DE Dee Ford, CB Darqueze Dennard, CB Jason Verrett
2011-Browns drafted DT Phil Taylor
next 3: OT Anthony Costanzo, OG Danny Watkins, DE Cameron Jordan
2012-Browns drafted RB Trent Richardson
next 3: OT Matt Kalil, WR Justin Blackmon, CB Morris Claiborne
2012-Browns drafted QB Brandon Weeden
next 3: OT Riley Reiff, OG David DeCastro, LB Dont'a Hightower
2013-Browns drafted DE/LB Barkevious Mingo
next 3: OG Jonathan Cooper, WR Tavon Austin, CB Dee Milliner
2014-Browns drafted CB Justin Gilbert
next 5: LB Anthony Barr, TE Eric Ebron, OT Taylor Lewan, WR Odell Beckham, DT Aaron Donald
2014-Browns drafted QB Johnny Manziel
next 3: DE Dee Ford, CB Darqueze Dennard, CB Jason Verrett
Posted on 8/27/16 at 9:17 am to Jack Ruby
Thankfully, they have this guy in charge now.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 9:19 am to Bench McElroy
Are the Browns that bad at evaluating talent, or are they ruining the players they pick?
Posted on 8/27/16 at 10:55 am to saintsfan92612
quote:
2012-Browns drafted RB Trent Richardson
next 3: OT Matt Kalil, WR Justin Blackmon, CB Morris Claiborne
Damn. Only one of these dudes to be anything worthwhile is blackmon and he can't even stay on the field because he's a knucklehead
Matt Kalil is awful. Mo has been bad, might be turning it around the last year or so but still, he got drafted 6th overall and couldn't play a lick for a while.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 11:10 am to saintsfan92612
quote:And those three look like genius picks next to the Browns stretch
Only 3 were really busts (so far) with Sullivan, Ellis, and Robinson.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 12:13 pm to saintsfan92612
Deuce McAllister- Saints HOFer
Donte Stallworth-started slow, but turned into solid contributor
Charles Grant- started off well, but got fat and happy after contract
Jonathan Sullivan- this name gives me indigestion to this day
Will Smith- solid performer, RIP
Jammal Brown- solid when healthy
Reggie Bush- was NEVER gonna live up to his hype, but tried anyway
Robert Meachem- Stallworth 2.0
Sedrick Ellis- had flashes, but never consistent
Malcolm Jenkins- didn't fit here, but turned out OK elsewhere
Patrick Robinson- toast
Cam Jordan- solid, underrated by the experts
Mark Ingram- slowed by injuries, but turning the corner now
Kenny Vaccaro- has dropped off considerably since rookie year
Brandin Cooks- could be of worth as #2, but definitely not a #1
Andrus Peat- is there anywhere on the OL this dude can play, because T isn't it....
Stephone Anthony- still has a little learning to do, but he's on track
Sheldon Rankins- TBD
overall, some hits, some misses, but we have not done well, overall, in the middle rounds, and we are constantly trading up, which make those mistakes that much more significant because of a lack of opportunities to get another player/something of worth...
Donte Stallworth-started slow, but turned into solid contributor
Charles Grant- started off well, but got fat and happy after contract
Jonathan Sullivan- this name gives me indigestion to this day
Will Smith- solid performer, RIP
Jammal Brown- solid when healthy
Reggie Bush- was NEVER gonna live up to his hype, but tried anyway
Robert Meachem- Stallworth 2.0
Sedrick Ellis- had flashes, but never consistent
Malcolm Jenkins- didn't fit here, but turned out OK elsewhere
Patrick Robinson- toast
Cam Jordan- solid, underrated by the experts
Mark Ingram- slowed by injuries, but turning the corner now
Kenny Vaccaro- has dropped off considerably since rookie year
Brandin Cooks- could be of worth as #2, but definitely not a #1
Andrus Peat- is there anywhere on the OL this dude can play, because T isn't it....
Stephone Anthony- still has a little learning to do, but he's on track
Sheldon Rankins- TBD
overall, some hits, some misses, but we have not done well, overall, in the middle rounds, and we are constantly trading up, which make those mistakes that much more significant because of a lack of opportunities to get another player/something of worth...
Posted on 8/27/16 at 12:15 pm to dabigfella
The Seahawks have some stellar scouts.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 3:00 pm to saintsfan92612
quote:
For comparison, here's the Saints 2011-2014 1st round picks:
quote:
as bad as we've drafted lately, at least we still have 4 starters from that period.
Yeah, but lets not compare ourselves to the Browns.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 3:01 pm to tenderfoot tigah
quote:
We do ok in the first round, but beyond that, we fail.
well thats just not true
We find one guy in the last couple rounds every year and people call Loomis the best. when we draft shitty everywhere else
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