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re: Statistical comparison: First 5 NFL seasons of Peyton Manning and Cam Newton
Posted on 8/12/16 at 6:49 pm to BowlJackson
Posted on 8/12/16 at 6:49 pm to BowlJackson
when did he become an "elite" passer? he was 28th in completion percentage and middle of the pack QB rating.
he is an elite runner at the QB position. also, you make comments about OL, Manning did not have an elite OL his first years either. Didn't have a defense either but he did have more help at WR/RB.
he is an elite runner at the QB position. also, you make comments about OL, Manning did not have an elite OL his first years either. Didn't have a defense either but he did have more help at WR/RB.
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Posted on 8/12/16 at 6:54 pm to tduecen
Bingo, he would never had made it in the days that you actually had to throw your receiver open, as opposed to throwing to an open receiver.
And the sacks were very much on Cam too, he holds the ball WAY to long, ala RGIII
And the sacks were very much on Cam too, he holds the ball WAY to long, ala RGIII
Posted on 8/12/16 at 7:09 pm to tduecen
Maybe his OL wasn't "elite", I was 7 Manning's rookie year so I don't remember. It was almost certainly better than anything Cam has had because you don't have the NFL's leading rusher two straight seasons without an OL that isn't at least good. Other than this year and his rookie year Cam's OL has been arguably the single worst in the entire league. And even this year and and his rookie year it was still below average.
As far as winning games though, you're right Cam has had a huge advantage with having one of the best defenses in the league the last couple years.
As far as winning games though, you're right Cam has had a huge advantage with having one of the best defenses in the league the last couple years.
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