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What is Healthcare's future?
You are so far off base...I would save everyone if I could. But until you are forced to essentially torture people for the peace of family members you cannot possibly understand. I have done things to the human body that I thought should have been criminal because a family member said to do everything. So how bout you frick off you judgemental prick.

You ever put someone down? There are two sides to that coin. I've been involved in care that went beyond "slow codes". Definitely not for everybody. Helped care for a cva/bleed that was massive. We had no ICU beds and the guy was old and very ill. He was given copious amounts of morphine until he died. Which is how I would want to go. His son was at his side. His wife had passed. The nurse who was in charge of him asked me (my involvement) to go to the other Pyxis to get more morphine. He had probably 8-10 4mg vials lined up on a mayo stand that he'd given. He needed more. The gentleman was essentially euthanized. I cared for a similar patient years ago. Cancer not stroke. He was in pain and struggling to breathe. A DNR. Pressure was shite over shite. I gave him Demerol (few years ago) and went to lunch. Again, a son at the bedside. I came out of the lounge and son came out of the room. He was gone.

We do terrible things to people. I've joked many times uneasily with many code teams as we flog an old patient, "we are gonna rot in hell for doing this." But putting a patient down ain't for everybody either.

I see no solution for end of life care. You discuss it and the term "death panel" gets used. Discussion is over. The average person does not understand that most code teams and slow codes ARE death panels.