Tesla doubles down on its fraud.

They could not sell many cars if it wasn't far the federal tax credit of $7500 from all of us! The solar panels he speaks of receive large federal and state tax credits from all of us! As do the storage systems.

And for him to speak of sustainability is very misleading at the least. Even with these tax credit gifts from you and me the payback time for these solar panels and back up batteries are longer than their lifespan. So before this equipment is paid for you generally have to buy new equipment. And their warranties are not as long as their payback period.

So the premise of Musk's own business is financed by tax credits and voodoo economics.

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Posted by JohnnyKilroy

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Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:38 am to cajuncarguy

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Even with these tax credit gifts from you and me the payback time for these solar panels and back up batteries are longer than their lifespan. So before this equipment is paid for you generally have to buy new equipment. And their warranties are not as long as their payback period.

Link?

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Posted by Napoleon

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Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:38 am to cajuncarguy

the government paid BILLIONS to help prop up other infrastructures. Where were you when whalers were getting put out of work as oil was found in the ground?

Change happens man, don't fight it.

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Posted by shel311

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Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:39 am to cajuncarguy

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They could not sell many cars if it wasn't far the federal tax credit of $7500 from all of us! The solar panels he speaks of receive large federal and state tax credits from all of us! As do the storage systems.

And? Did he say otherwise?

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And for him to speak of sustainability is very misleading at the least. Even with these tax credit gifts from you and me the payback time for these solar panels and back up batteries are longer than their lifespan. So before this equipment is paid for you generally have to buy new equipment. And their warranties are not as long as their payback period.

What research have you done that you base this on? Honest question.

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Posted by dabigfella

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Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:28 pm to cajuncarguy

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They could not sell many cars if it wasn't far the federal tax credit of $7500 from all of us!

This is just ridiculous, all the cars they've sold have been pretty expensive, you act like people paying $90k for a model s couldnt pay $7500 more. They could easily, but yes the government has subsidized the first few, I believe up to 200,000 maybe 250,000.

Anyways, do you have a cheap flat screen tv? You can thank the early adopters there that paid $8k 15 years ago to help invest in the product bringing down its future costs, tesla did the same, using wealthy people to finance future cars. Lots of brands do this. Lamborghini when it was done with the murcielago launched the reventon which was $2M each and sold 20 or 25 units, not because the car was worth it, but because the profits from the car would help finance future cars.

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