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Question for Mini 14 owners

Posted on 7/20/16 at 5:18 pm
Posted by Babewinkelman
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 5:18 pm
How accurate are they right out of box? Open sights or scope? Thanks
Posted by Heathens
Oxford, MS
Member since Jul 2016
716 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 5:19 pm to
I don't own one but my uncle does, he loves it.
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 5:23 pm to
Wish I could tell you for sure. Thinking it was fair at least or I'd remember that. It's been 25+ years since I used it.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
46667 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

How accurate are they right out of box? Open sights or scope? Thanks


i have newer a mini 30
right out the box its accurate enough off-hand and open sights
there are several inexpensive tweaks you can make though

i had my stock bedded and added an accu-strut on the barrel, along with a minor trigger job it's now 2MOA at 100 yards which is all i need. mini's are not bench rifles...people who buy them to punch paper are always disappointed. what they are are 100% reliable, rugged, zero-maintenance lightweight high-capacity angels of death with no frills and nothing to break
Posted by rungunz
Member since Jul 2016
92 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 5:45 pm to
An AR will be more accurate
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 5:45 pm to
The French police agree


Posted by White Bear
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:50 pm to
The 581 series and newer rifles are more accurate than the older rifles, per the internet. I can tell you this, I have a newer 581 series rifle and it will shoot green tips in a 10" paper plate at 250 with irons, and that's using a Mule seat a rest. I prefer it over an AR personally, I like the longer sight radius and the wood stock. And the garland style action. mine shot far right when I got it, so I re torqued the gas block and did some trigger work on it, too.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29504 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:53 pm to
New ones can shoot 2inch groups at 200 yards.

Old ones are either sub moa or struggle to hit milk jugs at 100 yards.

They were called minute of milkjug guns in the 90s
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
65303 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

An AR will be more accurate




Leave the Mini alone. It's not accurate and more expensive than an AR.

Yeah, an AR is a tack driver.


Logic much.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:17 pm to


Carbines are great for killing the folks who need killing.
Posted by Babewinkelman
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:45 pm to
Thanks
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7439 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:26 pm to
Babe,
Cgrand has a pretty good summary. I've never owned a Mini-14 or Ranch Rifle, but I have 2 friends who have.

Both are stock Mini-14's. One gun is prob 20 yrs old; the other was about 1.5 yrs old. Admittedly, newer Mini 14's appear to be more accurate, but usually leave much to be desired. Both friends are VERY competent shooters and skilled handloaders. Both guns are lucky to get groups of less than 2 1/2" MOA. In the case of the newer gun, my friend tried: 4 different powders; many quality bullets weighing from 40-65 gr; 2 different scopes; 2 different sets of scope rings/mount; multiple different factory loads; in addition, he spent $75 and drove 3 hours round trip to have a trigger job done by Clark's. Despite this, 3-4" groups at 100 yds were the norm. Totally frustrated, he sent the gun back to Ruger. They replaced the custom 3.5# trigger w/ a 7# factory trigger, destroyed the custom trigger and replaced the factory bolt. W/ the returned gun they included a target of a 3/4" group at 50 yds shot w/ 55 gr American Eagle ammo. Thereafter, the best it shot for him was a single 2.5" group at 100 yds; it averages 3-3.5" groups. This is not a problem of an incompetent shooter and the wrong ammo. After the gun was returned, my friend called Clark's and asked them what they could do to accurize the Mini-14. They basically said, "Nothing" unless they installed a target barrel and reworked the gas system. He ended up selling the gun w/o losing too much money. Yeah, Ruger made some manufacturing changes a few years ago that helped the accuracy of many Mini-14's, but from reading the internet, my friend's experience w/ a recently made inaccurate Mini 14 is not uncommon.

If you can be happy w/ a reliable, handy, neat looking, solid feeling gun that shoots 2-3 MOA on a good day, then you'll like the Mini 14; if not, you'd better look elsewhere.

Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46667 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 3:39 pm to
nothing at all out of the ordinary there...mini's are usually 2-3MOA out the box. just for reference, here is the shop that accurizes them:

LINK

their prices are reasonable and the results are there...usually getting 1 to 1.5MOA better.

nobody who like the mini platform would ever with a straight face tell you that they are comparable to an AR in accuracy, it just isnt possible. there are pro's and con's with every design, mini has pro's that an AR does not. different strokes for different folks, and plenty of them evidently as ruger sells thousands of them every year
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 3:43 pm
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7439 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:02 pm to
Cgrand,
Thanks for the link. My friend w/ the newer Mini decided he'd spent enough money already and got rid of it. I think the other friend has just accepted that his is NOT an accurate rifle.
Posted by White Bear
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 4:09 pm to
Removing as much creep as possible from the trigger helps a lot, as does trimming the main trigger spring a little to lighten it up, that's what I did.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7439 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

Removing as much creep as possible from the trigger helps a lot, as does trimming the main trigger spring a little to lighten it up, that's what I did.


That's what my friend w/ the newer Mini 14 was hoping for when he paid $75 for a trigger job. Unfortunately it didn't help much; it surely was no help after Ruger restored it to a factory trigger when he sent it in for warranty work.
Posted by White Bear
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:07 pm to
Mine was actually shooting way left, not right as I'm mentioned first, so much so that the rear peep was damn near out of adj to the right. So I called Ruger and they didn't offer shite as far as returns, help, ect go.

Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7439 posts
Posted on 7/23/16 at 12:02 am to
quote:

So I called Ruger and they didn't offer shite as far as returns, help, ect go.

Sounds like something's not right w/ your iron sights. Does the gun shoot that way for everyone or just you? If it's everyone and you want to return the gun to Ruger, you might can get some help from the store you bought it from. Of course, it you DO return the gun to Ruger, there's a good chance they will redo the work you did on it, return it to factory specs and not return to you any parts you altered.
Posted by White Bear
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:14 pm to
I actually re-torqued the gas block with a little extra torque on the left screws in a n attempt to push it right. It worked enough, the peep is still right of center but not unacceptable. I think the rifle is pretty accurate for what it is. Thanks for the info though.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7439 posts
Posted on 7/24/16 at 10:56 pm to
Hope it works out for you.
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