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re: Saints drafted other players over these LSU players
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:09 am to VetteGuy
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:09 am to VetteGuy
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Yeah well, they did. No one is denying that.
That was an official deal. The Collins thing (which didn't exist anyway) was never put on paper or email.
So you're saying it was OK to sign him as UDFA, but not actually draft him?
Don't yall ever get tire of making excuses for Loomis/Payton?
It is documented fact that Collins' agents told EVERY TEAM (including the Cowboys) after the first round was over that if they took him, they wouldn't sign and he would petition to go back into next year's draft. They didn't want him to be drafted because if he signed as an UDFA, he would get late 1st/early 2nd round money--which is exactly what happened.
It's laughable that some of you think that Loomis and Payton automatically take players off the board because they went to LSU.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:22 am to lsutigers1992
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Loomis and Payton automatically take players off the board because they went to LSU
It's more just that they consider other players to have "higher potential" .. The error is in the evaluation process. It's just unfortunate for us that support our state that we don't get to see some of our hometown guys play locally. As long as Bama fan Sean Payton is around, my kids will never know a Hokie Gajan or Bobby Hebert.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:57 am to lsutigers1992
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It's laughable that some of you think that Loomis and Payton automatically take players off the board because they went to LSU.
I actually don't think that.
I do think Collins was an obvious miss given his locality to the Saints.
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It is documented fact that Collins' agents told EVERY TEAM (including the Cowboys) after the first round was over that if they took him, they wouldn't sign
Well, which is it? A NFL conspiracy or a agent threat?
How about he signed with the Cowboys b/c they gave him $1.7M guaranteed over 3 years? They also rolled out the red carpet.
I think maybe that's the answer.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 9:07 am to lsutigers1992
My thinking on Collins, is that if I'm the Saints, I'm thinking this is a guy we could maybe get for a bargain.
He's local, so we can see if there's actually any truth to the rumors, we can get in a car and drive 55 minutes and talk to him or his coaches, friends, etc.
In other words, the Saints were in a unique position to allay any fears they had about drafting him or signing him, relative to the other teams.
I don't believe the NFL told anyone not to draft him. That is foolish talk. I do think teams were extra-cautious given the then-recent domestic violence controversies.
He's local, so we can see if there's actually any truth to the rumors, we can get in a car and drive 55 minutes and talk to him or his coaches, friends, etc.
In other words, the Saints were in a unique position to allay any fears they had about drafting him or signing him, relative to the other teams.
I don't believe the NFL told anyone not to draft him. That is foolish talk. I do think teams were extra-cautious given the then-recent domestic violence controversies.
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