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re: Study of Biggest Losers finds that the body wants and will fight to be Fat
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:11 pm to McLemore
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:11 pm to McLemore
So there's no basis on genetic pre-disposition or anything related that makes the body want to be a certain "non-optimal" BMI?
Maybe I'm not saying it correctly, but is the idea that some people have bodies that fight any weight-loss by lowering metabolism until it reaches some an arbitrary "optimal"....is horse-shite and only applies to Biggest Loser type weight loss and not to any other weight loss?
Not an excuse, just is it reality that (all else being equal age,sex,height) certain people naturally burn 400-800 less calories/day than a peer, and furthermore they retain a higher % of calories that they consume?
(meaning, two people eat a 1,000 calorie meal, 1 person's digestive efficiency absorbs 950cal, and the other absorbs 800 cal, with the remainder passing through without absorption)
Just for due diligence, are there ANY other internal variables that determine outcome...save cal in/out?
Also, why do you not need to count calories under Keto..and people say to smother everything in cheese and crap like that....why does cal in/out not apply when there's no carbs?
Maybe I'm not saying it correctly, but is the idea that some people have bodies that fight any weight-loss by lowering metabolism until it reaches some an arbitrary "optimal"....is horse-shite and only applies to Biggest Loser type weight loss and not to any other weight loss?
Not an excuse, just is it reality that (all else being equal age,sex,height) certain people naturally burn 400-800 less calories/day than a peer, and furthermore they retain a higher % of calories that they consume?
(meaning, two people eat a 1,000 calorie meal, 1 person's digestive efficiency absorbs 950cal, and the other absorbs 800 cal, with the remainder passing through without absorption)
Just for due diligence, are there ANY other internal variables that determine outcome...save cal in/out?
Also, why do you not need to count calories under Keto..and people say to smother everything in cheese and crap like that....why does cal in/out not apply when there's no carbs?
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Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:20 pm to Kujo
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Also, why do you not need to count calories under Keto..and people say to smother everything in cheese and crap like that....why does cal in/out not apply when there's no carbs?
It absolutely does. I count on keto. Most people do. Keto affects some people in such a way that they find they are not nearly as hungry on keto and they have the luxury of not counting.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:23 pm to Kujo
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Just for due diligence, are there ANY other internal variables that determine outcome...save cal in/out?
well in the end this is all about finding calories out. No one person is going to burn the same amount of calories even all other variables being the same. Thats why I was saying to find your TDEE and do 20% less calories. If you haven't loss any weight and were very strict to the calories well you have to adjust down.
Absolutely there are variables but you can account for them. In the end its all about cals.
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Not an excuse, just is it reality that (all else being equal age,sex,height) certain people naturally burn 400-800 less calories/day than a peer, and furthermore they retain a higher % of calories that they consume?
yes this is reality to a certain extent(you worded it weird. Some people will burn off more of those calories because some people are less efficient at using them. its just the nature of our genetics but it can be changed over time.
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Also, why do you not need to count calories under Keto..and people say to smother everything in cheese and crap like that....why does cal in/out not apply when there's no carbs?
Its not that calories don't matter they absolutely do. But for many its hard to get to the amount of calories you need and the amount of fat you should intake without doing things like that. Its hard to eat a lot of cals from protein and fat for most. Carbs....its easy to do. Most people are looking to get 60 to 65% of their cals from fat so they figure out ways to do that. For many this means adding cheese to meats or butter on meats etc.
But overall calories still matter.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:51 pm to Kujo
i think there are bases for the conclusion that it's much easier for some people to maintain and lose weight due to different metabolisms, and some of that is likely genetic in some fashion.
but I also believe that, even with those factors, eating the right things (which leads to proper portioning) can render almost everyone healthy (from a nutrition and weight standpoint, which leads to greater overall health).
And, that is both easier and harder than it may appear--easier because you can eat a lot of great tasty, affordable stuff and still be healthy; harder because commercially prepared, packaged, sold food is generally majorly fricked up + our government and the "food" industry have long propagated very dangerous dietary guidelines and habits.
Plus, as evidenced by that article, the go-to solution for so many "experts" seems to be drugs, rather than food/diet research, education, emotional/psychological support, etc.
but I also believe that, even with those factors, eating the right things (which leads to proper portioning) can render almost everyone healthy (from a nutrition and weight standpoint, which leads to greater overall health).
And, that is both easier and harder than it may appear--easier because you can eat a lot of great tasty, affordable stuff and still be healthy; harder because commercially prepared, packaged, sold food is generally majorly fricked up + our government and the "food" industry have long propagated very dangerous dietary guidelines and habits.
Plus, as evidenced by that article, the go-to solution for so many "experts" seems to be drugs, rather than food/diet research, education, emotional/psychological support, etc.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 4:13 pm
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