re: 17 Years Ago the Columbine Massacre happened

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FALSE. most kids can roll with the punches, so to speak, but dopeheads are a different breed. it's no coincidence this happened on 4/20. it's well-documented that hardcore drugs and violence are intrinsically linked.

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I would like to spend a day in your world. I bet it's interesting if nothing else.

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I know some schools have metal detectors in bad areas. but still, it amazes me nothing was done to prevent this besides banning trench coats.

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lots of school require clear backpacks, but yeah, I get your point

I think its mostly the "it can't happen here" mentality

I remember in my HS, right after Columbine, we had to evacuate school because some chick told a teacher that one of our "trench coat mafia" showed her his kill list

poor guy never lived that down, even though it was completely false (same girl also claimed false rape later), he eventually had to transfer because he was forever the "he is going to kill us" kid

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That school had an extreme bully issue for pretty much everyone.

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Nothing I have read about it sounds different than my high school. I think the whole meme of Columbine specifically having an exceptional bullying problem results from the biased perceptions of the people in media reporting on it, who were in their 40s and 50s and had no perspective on modern public high schools. My high school had black vs. hispanic race riots and Quannel X held a rally on our front steps. Harris and Klebold had it EASY. They were just a couple of psychopaths looking for an excuse. Probably would have become serial killers if not for this.

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I work in the school system, its too expensive to take these precautions, especially in rural towns and counties/parishes. Look at Louisiana, we have been cutting funding to schools and college left and right, where would the money come from to buy metal detectors etc? At the school I work at their is a high school, Jr high and two elementary schools all with in a 5 mile radius and we only have one cop that polices all 4.

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I had a feeling this was the sole reason and it makes me sad to think the safety of ALL our children is leveraged on lack of funding. I know money doesn't grow on trees (and esp in education, my wife's a teacher, I understand) Just makes me sick to think about.

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Nothing I have read about it sounds different than my high school. I think the whole meme of Columbine specifically having an exceptional bullying problem results from the biased perceptions of the people in media reporting on it, who were in their 40s and 50s and had no perspective on modern public high schools. My high school had black vs. hispanic race riots and Quannel X held a rally on our front steps. Harris and Klebold had it EASY. They were just a couple of psychopaths looking for an excuse. Probably would have become serial killers if not for this.

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Your high school probably had it an issue with it too. I graduated the year before Columbine at a very similar size public school with similar demographics and was a bullied kid up until I hit my growth spurt junior year. I didn't have anywhere near as bad as a lot kids did there from student accounts.

Bullying had gotten out of hand a lot of places and needed to be addressed, so it wasn't really a bad thing that situations like this brought the subject a little more attention. I agree it didn't really play much a part in this though. They had chances to kill some of the bullies and chose other targets.

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That school had an extreme bully issue for pretty much everyone.

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is it really bullying if everyone gets bullied?

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Rachel Scott was her name right? Was there any reference to them not liking Christianity in their diaries or Christians in general? I

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That was one and Cassie Bernall was also credited with saying it. Rachel's brother claimed it was Cassie but I think he misidentified where she was killed.

I think someone that survived was actually the one questioned, forget who it was, but it probably happened just wasn't any way like it was reported.

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Think how fcking stupid that is

A guy killed 77 people with a gun, and he will be released after 21 years

That is some scary shite

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IIRC, 21 years is the max sentence their justice system can give. After 21 years, he'll be "up for parole", so to speak, but they'll just give him another 21 years. He's not getting out

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is it really bullying if everyone gets bullied?

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At my high school it was sort of like prison. I wouldn't call it bullying, just a general prison atmosphere where everyone was trying to survive everyone else. I used to watch Oz, which was on HBO at the time, and take notes on how to survive in a prison environment. Mostly: don't start no s*** won't be no s***. Klebold, and kids like him where I went to school, brought it on himself by trying to publicly and visibly go against the grain and antagonize people in order to get attention and notoriety. He had a personality disorder.

I went to Pearl HS and ran late for school that morning. I had to pick up two more of my friends that day. I was in 5th grade home room with Woodham.

Pearl could NOT have been worse since Woodham didn't have any explosives, but it was the event that really started the ball rolling. Woodham was a piece of shite. You have to be a piece of shite to kill your own mother.

I had a buddy get shot in the leg. He said he was in the library when he heard what sounded like "books slamming from some student dropping them down from the second floor."

He said he walked out and saw woodham shooting and he said he took off and ran all the way down to the band hall. Once he got down there, he looked at his leg and it was bleeding.

Woodham didn't wear his glasses that day. He wore these thick coke bottle glasses. So, he wasn't that great of a shot. The kids he didn't kill had fragments of ceramic tile in their leg where he was shooting down in front of them and the tile would fly up and lodge into the people's legs.

I had another friend who was actually a friend of Woodhams who fell down and he said Luke walked up to him and told him he was sorry and put the gun to his head and it went "click". He ran out of bullets for that particular gun. He got up and ran like hell.

Luke was a coward.