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re: About the draft . . .

Posted on 3/27/16 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Posted on 3/27/16 at 12:40 pm to
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Yeah, that's what I think the Hield fanatics aren't getting. It's like they think Jamal Crawford is an insulting comparison


It is an insulting comparison. The only thing not insulting is the PPG column. Everything else is insulting when you are as efficient as Hield. Why do you insist on breaking Hield = Crawford down to one single column on the stat sheet? It's like because you agreed with it initially you are digging your heels into the sand.

I'm surprised as your posts normally contain substance and analysis. When it comes to this, you are simplifying it to the one thing they might have in common at the next level, PPG.

If I knew I was getting Jamal Crawford in Buddy Hield at 6, I would say HARD PASS and shoot for someone with more upside.

ETA: I don't think anyone is arguing Hield is going to be a franchise player. I think people want him cause we have 2 pieces already, and he compliments them well. He's also high character and a hard worker. He won't be a stud defender, but he's not going to suck either.
This post was edited on 3/27/16 at 12:50 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61612 posts
Posted on 3/27/16 at 1:07 pm to
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When it comes to this, you are simplifying it to the one thing they might have in common at the next level, PPG.


That's literally the only column that matters because that's the only column he's above average in. So Hield shoots better than Crawford, that's going to get him more points, not more shots, and I already conceded that saying he might average 2-3 more points than Crawford.

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I'm surprised as your posts normally contain substance and analysis.



I have done analysis, that's exactly why I'm questioning him. Jamal Crawford has a career average of 34.8% from 3 on 5 3s a game. That's 1.8 3s made or 5.4 points per game. Let's say Buddy averages 6 3s a game and shoots 40% from 3. That's 2.4 3s made per game or an additional 1.8 ppg. 15.5 + 1.8 = 17.3 Like I said I can see him being an 18 ppg scorer rather than Crawfords 15.5, but I think you might be overestimating just how many more points increased efficiency gets you.

The Ryan Andersons and Jamal Crawfords of the world have the skill to score more than 20 ppg, but they don't get enough leash to use that skill because they are one dimensional scorers. Kyle Korver only got 6 3 point shots per game last season when he was averaging 49% from 3. Just because you're good at it doesn't mean you get the shots. Hield will be no different if he can't bring more to the table than scoring.

At least Nola Bronco has tried to paint Hield's no good teammates as a reason for his low assist number. Granted it was only a one game sample size, but it's arguing in the right direction instead of doing what you and others are doing and just answering "you must not watch him" to "why will he be more than a scorer only in the NBA."

I'm not hating on Hield, but I haven't watched him as much as many of you so I'm trying to use your increased experience with Hield to understand why you think he will be so much more in the NBA. But if you think he'll have a different role in the NBA than Crawford and Anderson just because he's more efficient, I think you're wrong and all of your assumptions about Hield at the next level are based on a shaky foundation.
This post was edited on 3/27/16 at 1:15 pm
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