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Cobain vs Grohl
Posted on 3/25/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 3/25/16 at 4:27 pm
Both came out of the same scene. One a wasted life, the other relatively well adjusted and just an all around cool guy. What happened?
Posted on 3/25/16 at 4:33 pm to Jim Rockford
Courtney Love happened, baw.
(ETA: The female, human version of a weapon of mass destruction.)
(ETA: The female, human version of a weapon of mass destruction.)
This post was edited on 3/25/16 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 3/25/16 at 4:56 pm to Jim Rockford
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One a wasted life
He accomplished a lot in 27 years, wasn't too wasted. I still look at Dave as "the drummer for nirvana". May have came from the same scene, but he lived a totally different lifestyle.
Sometimes it seems like some people are just born to die.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 5:03 pm to Jim Rockford
One, talented.
The other, not so much.
The other, not so much.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 5:33 pm to Jim Rockford
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Both came out of the same scene.
Not really. Grohl is from Ohio and played in Scream out of Washington D.C.
He operated in the Seattle grunge scene for only about three years.
This post was edited on 3/25/16 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 3/25/16 at 5:45 pm to Dandy Lion
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One, talented. The other, not so much.
So true...
Posted on 3/25/16 at 6:28 pm to Jim Rockford
Kurt Cobain's depression told him that death would bring happiness he could never find on earth.
Now you ask, how could a young, successful, highly acclaimed artist believe his life was so hopeless that only death could bring peace of mind?
Well, that's what depression does to your perceptions.
Now you ask, how could a young, successful, highly acclaimed artist believe his life was so hopeless that only death could bring peace of mind?
Well, that's what depression does to your perceptions.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 6:38 pm to Ace Midnight
Agreed. She made sure to make him think she was f in other dudes...& likely was...
Sometimes depression just needs a lil push
Posted on 3/25/16 at 6:51 pm to Jim Rockford
One had an illness and a messed up upbringing and the other didn't (at least that we know of). GTFO
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:11 pm to Jim Rockford
Dave Grohl will tell you Kurt Cobain was more talented. So will everyone else with any common frickin sense.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:27 pm to ItNeverRains
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Cobain vs Grohl
Dave Grohl will tell you Kurt Cobain was more talented. So will everyone else with any common frickin sense.
Remember when rock songs had guitar rides in them? I will always view Cobain and Nirvana as the group that killed the guitar ride in rock n roll.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 9:04 pm to Jim Rockford
I don't know what happened to separate them in life, but I can tell you that they both suck and their music is annoying
Posted on 3/26/16 at 9:01 am to Jim Rockford
Grohl seemed to enjoy the ride that nirvana was on. Where cobain resented their success.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 1:04 pm to geauxbrown
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Remember when rock songs had guitar rides in them? I will always view Cobain and Nirvana as the group that killed the guitar ride in rock n roll.
That's the legacy that people like to think of, mainly because they were the first non hair band or pop artist to come through in about a decade.
But if you actually listen to their music, (most of) the songs are poppy, melodic, and have great bass hooks underneath all of the distortion. Cobain would probably be the first to tell you that his music had more in common with the Beatles than Black Flag.
"Lounge Act"
"Serve the Servants"
Posted on 3/26/16 at 4:54 pm to MoonrakerElite
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That's the legacy that people like to think of, mainly because they were the first non hair band or pop artist to come through in about a decade.
But if you actually listen to their music, (most of) the songs are poppy, melodic, and have great bass hooks underneath all of the distortion. Cobain would probably be the first to tell you that his music had more in common with the Beatles than Black Flag.
I don't dismiss their music and I do enjoy many of the tracks they recorded. I would totally agree with you that Cobain had much more in common with the Beatles than many realize when it came to songwriting formula. You are also correct that many folks (like myself) have probably placed far too much blame on Nirvana for the death of the guitar ride. Not since the punks of the 70's had a band used so little musicianship to become so popular. I know I'll get hammered for that statement, but it is what it is.......for the most part, 4 chord rock n roll.......which is alright by me.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 5:40 pm to geauxbrown
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I don't dismiss their music and I do enjoy many of the tracks they recorded. I would totally agree with you that Cobain had much more in common with the Beatles than many realize when it came to songwriting formula. You are also correct that many folks (like myself) have probably placed far too much blame on Nirvana for the death of the guitar ride. Not since the punks of the 70's had a band used so little musicianship to become so popular. I know I'll get hammered for that statement, but it is what it is.......for the most part, 4 chord rock n roll.......which is alright by me.
I agree with this. I like Nirvana, but I like them as a band, not as a genre. I think the fact that they get credit for killing hair metal is what makes people hate them. Nirvana was a breath of fresh air, something new. The problem was, rather than being a unique one-off, they became the model. The grunge movement ended up being too much of a good thing.
Nirvana was great because they were grit in a sea of glitter. The problem was, women didn't like grit. You can't dance to grit. When all rock, succumbed to the grit, the women flocked to the one remaining genre they could dance to, hip hop. Grunge didn't make guys feel like badasses, so guys followed the girls. Hip hop and generic pop slowly replaced rock in the mainstream consciousness.
Nirvana gets blamed for the death of rock n roll itself, which is blatantly unfair and only sorta true. The true blame goes to classic rock radio, which was founded in the 90's, coincidentally, as an affront to grunge.
This post was edited on 3/26/16 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 3/26/16 at 6:55 pm to danilo
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One had an illness and a messed up upbringing and the other didn't (at least that we know of). GTFO
this
Posted on 3/26/16 at 7:42 pm to Jim Rockford
Cobain was 100x the songwriter and musician that Grohl will be ever be. Cobain was probably a better drummer too.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 8:28 pm to kingbob
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The true blame goes to classic rock radio, which was founded in the 90's, coincidentally, as an affront to grunge.
Classic Rock started in the early 80s..
Posted on 3/26/16 at 8:39 pm to kingbob
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I agree with this. I like Nirvana, but I like them as a band, not as a genre. I think the fact that they get credit for killing hair metal is what makes people hate them. Nirvana was a breath of fresh air, something new. The problem was, rather than being a unique one-off, they became the model. The grunge movement ended up being too much of a good thing.
Nirvana was great because they were grit in a sea of glitter. The problem was, women didn't like grit. You can't dance to grit. When all rock, succumbed to the grit, the women flocked to the one remaining genre they could dance to, hip hop. Grunge didn't make guys feel like badasses, so guys followed the girls. Hip hop and generic pop slowly replaced rock in the mainstream consciousness.
Nirvana gets blamed for the death of rock n roll itself, which is blatantly unfair and only sorta true. The true blame goes to classic rock radio, which was founded in the 90's, coincidentally, as an affront to grunge.
Solid analysis. There's an interview with Rick Rubin from when he was producing demo tracks for The Band Perry about 4 years ago in which he talks about the Seattle scene coupled with the emergence of Hip Hop contributing to the rise and subsequent popularity of country music. Really interesting stuff.
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