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Gene Siskel vs. Roger Ebert, Ten Bests

Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:51 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39382 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:51 am
I heard some comments earlier that Siskel was the more level-headed and was spot-on most of the time...but he had some real interesting choices...

Gene Siskel trashed...

The Terminator ("I was not impressed, I thought it should have been a full-scale love story...as an action picture it was not well-made.)
Silence of the Lambs ("it's a freak show and Demme picked a trashy project." "I didn't buy it at all... I wasn't compelled by anybody...and Hopkins was way overplayed.")
Field of Dreams

And his 1979 Best films were...

1. Hair
2. Kramer vs. Kramer

Eberts were:

1. Apocalypse Now
2. Breaking Away

(both better films)

Ebert had Kramer vs. Kramer #8.

Siskel also chose Hannah and her Sisters over Platoon as his best picture...

And in his last best picture, he chose...

1. Babe, pig in the city as his best film of the year...Ebert chose Dark City.

It's interesting to note...the only movies each agreed on as the best picture of the year over all the 30 years they worked together were:

Z
The Godfather
Nashville
The Right Stuff
Do The Right Thing
Goodfellas
Schindler's List
Hoop Dreams
Fargo

And for the contentious debate:

Siskel had Shakespeare in Love at #5 and Ebert at #8.

Siskel had Ordinary People at #2 and Ebert at #5.

And for Seinfeld fans...

Siskel had The English Patient #4 of his best film of the year...Ebert didn't even have it in his top 10.

If you look at the history of their top 10's - Siskel doesn't stand out.

But...

One lasting enduring spot is that Siskel had Shawshank Redemption in his Top 10 at #8 behind Vanya on 42nd street...while Ebert gave it a great review...he didn't have it in his final year-end Top 10.



Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13122 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 6:33 am to
Honestly, neither was that great when they were doing their TV show. Both gave thumbs down to Brazil, Ebert more so than Siskel. Ebert wanted Gilliam to take out his dream sequences and special effects and tell a simple, less confusing story.



Of the two I somewhat agreed with Siskel more.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:17 am to
I want to see Pauline Kael's top 10 lists. I trust her opinion over both of them.
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
21077 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:15 am to
I'm a Richard Roeper guy.
Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:33 am to
I was a Yogi fan. Yogi reviews Moonstruck
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:45 am to
I happen to agree with Siskel on Silence of the Lambs. When I saw it in the theaters I couldn't believe people were making a big deal about it. I certainly didn't think it would hav any staying power. I thought in spite of its initial acclaim that it would be one of those films people looked back on and say, "WTF were we thinking?"
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38121 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:15 am to
I hate to say it, but Siskel was a hack, plain and simple.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38383 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:54 am to
Their show was a must-see for film fans. It was the only way to see some of the preview footage for that weekend's movies.
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3984 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

I happen to agree with Siskel on Silence of the Lambs. When I saw it in the theaters I couldn't believe people were making a big deal about it. I certainly didn't think it would hav any staying power. I thought in spite of its initial acclaim that it would be one of those films people looked back on and say, "WTF were we thinking?"


Well, you were both wrong.

Ebert > Siskel
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39382 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Z
The Godfather
Nashville
The Right Stuff
Do The Right Thing
Goodfellas
Schindler's List
Hoop Dreams
Fargo


At least they agreed on Goodfellas over Dances with Wolves...and Fargo over The English Patient.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39382 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

Ebert > Siskel


Ebert came into his own later in life when he was ill with his blog...wrote some memorable pieces and it was a great site for movie buffs to discuss and debate.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20458 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:01 pm to
I absolutely adore Babe. I will agree with him on that.

But when listening to his show, I disagreed with him bitterly on the very fabric of how he viewed movies. He talked almost like an alien who doesn't quite understand what other people saw.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39382 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:07 pm to
It wasn't Babe (1995)...

His Oscar choice was Babe, Pig in the City (1998)
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:55 pm to
Ebert. All day, every day.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11588 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:05 pm to
I always got the impression Siskel was just a garden variety movie fan, while Ebert was passionate about it.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38383 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

I always got the impression Siskel was just a garden variety movie fan, while Ebert was passionate about it.


Ebert would talk about Gene being a robot and Ebert as the emotional one.

I don't think one was lesser than the other, but Siskel did come across as being the analytical one, while Ebert was all about how the movie made him feel.
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