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re: Demps Will Be Back Next Season
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:17 pm to ShamelessPel
Posted on 2/23/16 at 3:17 pm to ShamelessPel
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He managed two untradeable contracts (without having to give up assets to get rid of them) at the most ridiculous position in the league in the same offseason
Interesting thoughts from 42 on the BSS podcast this week. He's stated for years that he felt Ryno and Tyreke were acquired with the intention of flipping them later for value, so 42 viewed the trade deadline as a big failure on the original, admittedly assumed, goal of acquiring Ryno. Tyreke falls into the same category and unless I'm completely wrong about the market for him, cap space and a 2nd is the best you can get. Another possibly big misread of where the market was going.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:08 pm to TigerinATL
Teams weren't going to trade for Anderson or Tyreke when
1) Teams can just add Anderson this free agent period instead of giving draft picks/players away. Higher cap space to overpay players.
2) Majority of teams have conceded the NBA title to the Warriors, Spurs and Cavs. That's why you didn't see many moves. They're just wait till free agency to improve their teams instead of paying for a rental.
3)Tyreke being injured definitely hurt his trade value. So what Demps wanted in return probably wasn't close to what he got offered
1) Teams can just add Anderson this free agent period instead of giving draft picks/players away. Higher cap space to overpay players.
2) Majority of teams have conceded the NBA title to the Warriors, Spurs and Cavs. That's why you didn't see many moves. They're just wait till free agency to improve their teams instead of paying for a rental.
3)Tyreke being injured definitely hurt his trade value. So what Demps wanted in return probably wasn't close to what he got offered
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:02 pm to TigerinATL
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Interesting thoughts from 42 on the BSS podcast this week. He's stated for years that he felt Ryno and Tyreke were acquired with the intention of flipping them later for value, so 42 viewed the trade deadline as a big failure on the original, admittedly assumed, goal of acquiring Ryno. Tyreke falls into the same category and unless I'm completely wrong about the market for him, cap space and a 2nd is the best you can get. Another possibly big misread of where the market was going.
At least he only gave up my man Goose for Anderson. The Tyreke deal is one of the worst front office decisions in the last 4 years of the NBA.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 11:06 pm to TigerinATL
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Interesting thoughts from 42 on the BSS podcast this week. He's stated for years that he felt Ryno and Tyreke were acquired with the intention of flipping them later for value, so 42 viewed the trade deadline as a big failure on the original, admittedly assumed, goal of acquiring Ryno. Tyreke falls into the same category and unless I'm completely wrong about the market for him, cap space and a 2nd is the best you can get. Another possibly big misread of where the market was going.
I think that is a re-writing of history given interviews with Demps and Anderson at the time. The consensus with Anderson was he would be our long term 4 as Davis grew into a long term 5 and Evans would be our Manu Ginoboli/James Harden that came off the bench and then finished games with Jrue and Gordon. This is backed up by interviews with Demps, Monty, Anderson and insider media reports local and national.
I do think Demps at a minimum believed that he was acquiring people that the market had undervalued and that in the course of time if they didn't work out he would be able to flip them for equal or greater value. With Anderson I still think he was right. Given what players did move we probably could have gotten a late first and an expiring. Demps seemingly wanted more and teams moved on. So he dug his own grave on that one.
Evans I never liked the acquisition and there is no way we ever were gonna get equal or greater value for him. not when the cost ultimately became 11 million in cap space, Robin Lopez, Greives Vasquez, and ultimately a mid first rounder to replace Lopez.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 11:09 pm
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