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re: Trey Quinn Transferring
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:14 am to lsu2006
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:14 am to lsu2006
quote:The logic is extremely simple.
I honestly have no idea how to respond to such arse backwards logic.
If I asked you this during the bama game:
A. Quinn catches the ball. We have 1st down at the 50
B. Quinn drops it. We are forced to punt, we punt it to the 5 yard line and one play later we get the ball at the bama 5
Everyone chooses option B. It is simple. Stop being obtuse and hardheaded
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:14 am to lsupride87
quote:
The drop undoubtedly helped LSUs chance to win that game
This is way dumber than anyone placing all the blame for the loss on Quinn. Both are dumb. Your's is a special brand of dumb.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:14 am to lsu2006
quote:
I honestly have no idea how to respond to such arse backwards logic.
So you would rather jump on the side of "Quinn cost us the Alabama game"? Rickdaddy is claiming if he catches one of those passes the game is over, we are taking a knee, "sealing victory". None of that is accurate.
Edit: you answered right above me, "both are dumb".
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 9:15 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:14 am to lsu2006
quote:You are either retarded or a stubborn arse. Take your pick
This is way dumber than anyone placing all the blame for the loss on Quinn. Both are dumb. Your's is a special brand of dumb.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 9:15 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:15 am to Choupique19
quote:
So you would rather jump on the side of "Quinn cost us the Alabama game"? Rickdaddy is claiming if he catches one of those passes the game is over, we are taking a knee, "sealing victory".
Both claims are idiotic.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:15 am to Choupique19
quote:Im sorry. Mine 100% is correct.
both are dumb
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:16 am to lsupride87
quote:
You are either retarded or a stubborn arse.
OK
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:16 am to lsu2006
quote:Explain how my claim is idiotic. It is a simple fact. The drop in hindsight was a huge help. No denying that
Both claims are idiotic.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:19 am to lsupride87
quote:
The drop in hindsight was a huge help.
Dropping the ball on 3rd down is never in and of itself a huge help. What if we punt it into the end zone? What if 'Bama doesn't fumble? How about he catches the damn ball and we continue our drive and put up some points? You're more or less presupposing that the drop is the first logical step that leads to a chain of events. It's so silly that I'm struggling to find words to explain how silly it is.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:21 am to lsupride87
LSU had 3rd and 3 at it's own 42 yard line. We threw a pass that would have made it first down at the 50 with 2 minutes left in the game. Instead we dropped it. So if he catches it, LSU has 1st down at the 50 in a tie game with 2 minutes left
Instead the drop happens. Lsu is forced to punt. The punt is downed at the Bama 1 with 1:56 seconds left. Bama fumbles on the next play and now LSU has 1st down at the Bama 5 with 1:13 seconds left.
Please explain how my logic is incorrect. Yes it is hindsight, but it is also true. In hindsight, the dropped worked out great
Instead the drop happens. Lsu is forced to punt. The punt is downed at the Bama 1 with 1:56 seconds left. Bama fumbles on the next play and now LSU has 1st down at the Bama 5 with 1:13 seconds left.
Please explain how my logic is incorrect. Yes it is hindsight, but it is also true. In hindsight, the dropped worked out great
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:21 am to lsupride87
quote:
Also maybe people forget Odell and Jarvis's early drops because they weren't pussies who quit after just 2 years...
You are such an idiot
I said that somewhat in jest, but this is a guy who, at his size, needed to be truly elite in other areas, and he just isn't. He has ok hands, runs ok routes, is an ok blocker, and has ok speed. And by "ok" I mean good enough to be an LSU starter...he doesn't have any major weaknesses, but there is no aspect of Quinn's game that makes him a gamebreaker. He'll probably do better if he goes to a place where being ok at all of those things is good enough to be a standout.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:22 am to lsu2006
quote:None of that happened you dumbass. But, knowing what we know, the dropped help. It is simple.
Dropping the ball on 3rd down is never in and of itself a huge help. What if we punt it into the end zone? What if 'Bama doesn't fumble?
quote:No, I am not. I am saying in our one specific case it helped. I am saying in our one specific case it is idiotic to call the drop something that helped lose the game, when in fact, it led to a positive result for LSU
You're more or less presupposing that the drop is the first logical step that leads to a chain of events. It's so silly that I'm struggling to find words to explain how silly it is.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:23 am to lsupride87
quote:
I mean it was a monumental help, even more so then huge. If he catches it we have first down around the 50. Instead, he dropped it, we punted inside the 5, then recovered a fumble inside the 5. So instead of starting a drive on the 50 with first down and 5 minutes left in the game, we started a drive on the 5 yard line with 3:30 left in the game. It helped us. There is no denying that
One wonders if you would bend over backward to defend this player if he wasn't white.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:23 am to lsupride87
quote:
In hindsight, the dropped worked out great
Really moving the goal posts here, man. You've gone from saying it was a "huge help" as if dropping a critical pass late in the game and forcing us to give up the ball was something to celebrate.
I think a better way to put it is that it didn't end up completely fricking us in the arse because 'Bama proceeded to screw it up themselves. Complete luck. But to act like the drop was an event that logically lead to some great result is beyond stupid.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:24 am to Rickety Cricket
quote:This is so fricking stupid. HE SHOULDNT HAVE DROPPED THE BALL. But, saying it caused the loss is even dumber because the drop led to a positive result. I dont give a shite if he was a green alien, the drop did not cause the loss
One wonders if you would bend over backward to defend this player if he wasn't white.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:25 am to lsu2006
quote:Bull fricking shite. I said since the beginning he should have caught the damn ball. But it is a fact that the drop led to a positive result for LSU. So in no way shape or form will I lay any blame on the drop.
You've gone from saying it was a "huge help" as if dropping a critical pass late in the game and forcing us to give up the ball was something to celebrate.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:26 am to lsupride87
It may not have directly caused the loss, but it certainly didn't secure a win.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:27 am to lsupride87
quote:
But, saying it caused the loss is even dumber
It's dumb but it's not as dumb as the steaming pile of shite you're putting forth. The goal in football is to move the sticks and get points. Quinn failed. He could have helped us win and didn't. Sorry that hurts your feelings so, but it's true.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:27 am to lsu2006
quote:100% it was complete luck. Doesnt change the fact that the drop helped us. Not sure why that is so hard to understand.
I think a better way to put it is that it didn't end up completely fricking us in the arse because 'Bama proceeded to screw it up themselves. Complete luck
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:28 am to lsu2006
quote:Agreed
The goal in football is to move the sticks and get points
quote:Agreed
Quinn failed.
quote:Doesnt hurt my feelings. I agree
Sorry that hurts your feelings so, but it's true.
Still doesnt change the fact the drop helped us in the game, not hurt us
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