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re: Spinoff: Outdoor related falsehoods people believe

Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:15 am to
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:15 am to
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A big grey squirrel might weigh much over a pound, right?


A really big one might get close to 2 lbs. I think the average adult would weight 1-1.5.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:16 am to
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Only one of those is more than a foot off the ground, and for all we know, he just exited the top of a big oak with it.
Oh good grief.

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But, I'm telling you, they're not flying off with anything over 2 lbs.

I never said otherwise.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21704 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:22 am to
quote:

Oh good grief.



I'm just saying, there's a conspicuous lack of photos of hawks up in the air carrying squirrels. I have hundreds of videos where I could freeze them at the right moment, and get a "photo" of a hawk "carrying" a squirrel. Two seconds later, they were on the ground. I have falconer/photographer friends who have photos. But, they weren't flying with the squirrel. They caught it and glided to the ground.

quote:

I never said otherwise.


Then why are you arguing with me, bruh?
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
55146 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:37 am to
quote:

They eat on the ground.
This is the statement you disagreed with.
quote:
Hawks carry off dogs/cats/small children.
I'm going to side with the resident hawk master as to the abilities of hawks.




Go back and read what I wrote.

Don't edit my posts for your quotes.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81814 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:40 am to
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Then why are you arguing with me, bruh?


You keep moving the target
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21704 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:53 am to
I get all worked up because I've had to argue with people about hawks carrying off beagles too many times.

But, just as a reference, the traps used by most falconers to trap red tails weigh around 3lbs (if you buy one and don't make your own). These traps just snag the hawk's feet. They're free to fly off with it if they can, but they can't.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Go back and read what I wrote.

...

Teague's post:
quote:

Hawks carry off dogs/cats/small children.

Your response:
quote:

A Red Tail will take small dogs and cats.

What am I missing?
This post was edited on 2/12/16 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:08 pm to








I agree the physics just don't match and redtail hawks are not carrying off most cats and dogs. It is possible for it to occur with some of the teacup dog breeds and with kittens often weighing less than 2 lbs. However, I think most people are poor at bird identification and have seen pics like the ones below and believe it applies to all big birds of prey.











Posted by banone74
Member since Oct 2006
1130 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:24 pm to
Certainly an eagle though right? I've seen videos of those Mongolian guys hunt w/golden eagles & it's truly a beautiful sight, primitive hunting, just a bunch of bad asses. I'm talking wolves getting taken out
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21704 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

I agree the physics just don't match and redtail hawks are not carrying off most cats and dogs. It is possible for it to occur with some of the teacup dog breeds and with kittens often weighing less than 2 lbs. However, I think most people are poor at bird identification and have seen pics like the ones below and believe it applies to all big birds of prey.


Yep, you're probably right about that. A lot of times, even the photos of the larger BOP's are misleading. You see photos of eagles carrying goats, but don't realize that the goat is a 5lb baby and the eagle just dragged it off a ledge and glided down. Or, like the photo of the barred owl and cat in your photo, where the owl probably just hit the cat for being near it's nest, and it jumped into the air. Although larger owls like GHO's can carry fairly large animals. Osprey are pretty impressive in what they can carry. But, they had to evolve to carry their prey because they can't exactly eat it on the water.

But yeah, my only point was that hawks aren't carrying off dogs or cats, unless they're small puppies or kittens.
This post was edited on 2/12/16 at 12:28 pm
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61625 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:27 pm to
That eagle and that Canada is awesome
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:47 pm to
So many post about "culling bucks. Some say not before 3.5, some say 4.5. Others say if you wait past .5 then they may have already bred and you aren't solving anything.

Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47817 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:49 pm to
Even though coonasses will fight you over this:
Toledo Bend has no areas called: Sammy Gil, Polly Godchaux or Crees Creek.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:57 pm to
- Deer, dogs, whatever see in black and white. --They may not have the full spectrum of humans but it isn't black and white. Closer to yellows and blues.

- Chiggers are insects that burrow in the skin and you should apply clear nail polish to the affected areas to smother them. -- They're arachnids/mites that do not burrow and applying nail polish only makes you shiny.
This post was edited on 2/12/16 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 1:25 pm to
btw this video seems to indicate that the hawk first flew with the tree rat up to its nest prior to gliding back down.

LINK

same with this video unless the rabbit was up on the fence to begin with



Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81814 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 1:44 pm to
More proof here. Everyone knows nuns don't lie.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57501 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 2:15 pm to
That Leupold is pronouned Leo-pold.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9359 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 2:37 pm to
7mm Mag is a good deer round.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29387 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Exactly, see below. If a bullet doesn't rise then how can you explain it starting at 1.5" low before rising to 2.87" above before falling eventually into the negatives?


Oh dear god.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9359 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 2:44 pm to
Bleach does helps redbugs bite, that's fact.
This post was edited on 2/12/16 at 2:46 pm
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