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re: Update on #Gentryfication

Posted on 1/30/16 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 2:51 pm to
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They shouldn't max him out or anything, but paying him ~$15-17M isn't necessarily insane if they think he's worth it next to Davis.


17M/year for a bench player is insane.

Davis isn't moving to the 5 anytime soon and Ryno is only good on one side of the ball. He will be paid a lot of money, and some team will get a pretty damn good player, but a bad contract to go with it. He's a very good role player who will be paid like a difference maker.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 3:23 pm to
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Davis isn't moving to the 5 anytime soon


Um, Davis already spends a good bit of time at the 5.

The key to my post is " not necessarily insane" and "if they think he's worth it next to Davis." If they think they work well together and can finish games, then they almost have to bring him back. There isn't an obvious upgrade available on the roster or in FA. Again, Asik/Ajinca contracts make keeping him a cap disaster though.

If there is no trade, I'd much rather find a way to dump both Asik/Ajinca or just stretch Asik, than simply let Anderson walk. Yes, he's a complementary player. So what? Every non Davis guy on the Pels is a complementary player. Letting him walk doesn't get them any closer to a 2nd banana. And, yes, the cap spike will artificially inflate his price. The spike will inflate everyone's price this summer. Batum isn't a max player but I bet he gets offers in that ballpark. Is that a bad deal?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 5:11 pm to
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17M/year for a bench player is insane.


First, remember that just a few years ago the salary cap was $58 million. We thought Ryno was on a good deal in that environment. In 2 years it will be $108 million. That's an 86% increase. 8.5 + 86% = $15.8. This cap is escalating so fast that "normal" deals will seem like sticker shock. Asik's problem isn't that he gets paid too much, he gets paid for too long for what the Pelicans needs should be. I'd have rather have actually over paid him 2/$30 than the 5/$60 he got.

Second, I agree with corndeaux in that unless you're going to completely cheap out on both the center and backup PF, a guy like Ryno is probably a better investment than anything you could get in a true center. I think the real question is could you get away with a Patrick Patterson type in addition to a Biyombo. With AD looking like missing 15 games a year is a pattern, Ryno might be less of a luxury than we like to think. Can a guy like Patrick Patterson put the team on his back and win a game when AD is out?

I'd be more disappointed that we didn't turn Ryno into a pick than that we paid $15 million to keep him. I guess we better hope some good player slips to the Philly pick because I'm starting to doubt we trade anybody besides another small Pondexter/Cole type of trade.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/30/16 at 9:15 pm to
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17M/year for a bench player is insane.
Seems pretty silly to simply call him a "bench player." So, someone who contributes significantly and plays over 30 minutes a game is worth less because he is not on the court for the tip off?
This post was edited on 1/30/16 at 9:17 pm
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