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re: Do other conferences suck off each other like the SEC?

Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:13 am to
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:13 am to
Some history.

It started when LSU got ignored by the media in 03 for the BCS title as the media acclaimed USC as the "real" champ.

Then next Auburn got screwed and OU got blown out.

The icing was when Meyer had to lobby to get Florida in title game. You forget how the media crucified Florida for even being in the game. Then Florida blew them out. One Gator summed it up: he said four SEC teams would've done the same to OSU. Then sportswriters after the game refused to give Florida credit but said it wasn't fair that it's season ended later than OSU's.

This created a backlash among South as we got tired of it. Once again south is snubbed and looked down on. SEC chant is our way of taunting them.
This post was edited on 1/2/16 at 9:19 am
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:16 am to
Bowl games help mold preseason rankings and where teams start in the beginning matters. If OSU doesn't start #1 no way are they in the discussion for a play off berth based on their schedule and how they performed against it. They played 2 teams with a pulse and went 1-1.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17370 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:16 am to
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You can't be as stupid as you post. The only reason anyone thinks Ohio State is decent is because of results on the field you moron. Add in the fact that they are the only school in the last 4 years (and running) to have a top 5 recruiting each and every year other than Alabama.

I'm not even sure why I responded to such an idiotic post.


You guys had close calls every single week, that's fine here and there, but you guys nearly lose to fricking everyone. Recruiting is great, therefore Tennessee should also be top 5 right?
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:24 am to
Did this SEC pride exist pre-2006?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35683 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:26 am to
Close calls every week? They had two close calls all season and both were early while the quarterback issue was still sorting out. Every other game was at least a two touchdown win.

You're just a lousy troll at this point.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73414 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:28 am to
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That won't always be the case.


It already wasn't last year. The Big Ten had a pretty low perception going into the playoff, because of what happened in December. The committee still made the right choice, and I didn't even have to stoop to pulling for the conference. Even after Michigan State fell on their faces, Ohio State won't need any help getting in, so I really don't care how our rivals do.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:29 am to
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You guys had close calls every single week, that's fine here and there, but you guys nearly lose to fricking everyone


Not really.

Ohio State - 42 Virginia Tech - 24
Ohio State - 38 Hawaii - 0
Ohio State - 20 N. Illinois - 13
Ohio Stae - 38 W. Michigan - 12
Ohio State - 34 Indiana - 27
Ohio State - 49 Maryland - 28
Ohio State - 38 Penn State - 10
Ohio State - 49 Ruters - 7
Ohio State - 28 Minnesota - 14
Ohio State - 28 Illinois - 3
Ohio State - 14 Michigan State - 17
Ohio State - 42 Michigan - 13
Ohio State - 44 Notre Dame - 28
This post was edited on 1/2/16 at 9:30 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51840 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:29 am to
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Did this SEC pride exist pre-2006?



I think it did with a minority, but that OSU/UF title game really got it moving. I believe the Big 10 was 2-1 against the SEC that bowl season, but all anyone cared about was the result of the championship game. UF beating OSU somehow means the rest of the SEC was great as well
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204115 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:32 am to
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Close calls every week?



Lets just say they underperformed with the awesome talent they had coming back after how they looked the last three games last year... They were an overwhelming preseason Fav in every poll.....Again they have only themselves to blame by losing to a highly overated Mich st. team.. Now THEY struggled a lot more during the season than OSU did...........
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72364 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:33 am to
I hate SEC pride.

Go Clemson.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:33 am to
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Lets just say they underperformed with the awesome talent they had coming back after how they looked the last three games last year... They were an overwhelming preseason Fav in every poll.....Again they have only themselves to blame by losing to a highly overated Mich st. team.. Now THEY struggled a lot more during the season than OSU did...........


Everyone's gunning for the defending national champions.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14352 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:34 am to
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I can only imagine how hard it is to tell a 5* recruit you should come to our school " because of the success the Sunbelt has had over the years. We can offer you the experiences of playing in front of 12k people on any given weekend " Playing successful programs helps LSU. So yes, I want our opponents to succeed. Strength of opponents still matters.
ding, ding - winner!!
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204115 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Everyone's gunning for the defending national champions.


Understood. By looking at the list just posted OSU struggled against teams they should have blown out.........
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73414 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Bowl games help mold preseason rankings and where teams start in the beginning matters. If OSU doesn't start #1 no way are they in the discussion for a play off berth based on their schedule and how they performed against it.


In the BcS, that did matter. Not so much any more. Ohio State could have started the season unranked and they'd be exactly where they were starting as unanimous #1. If they finished undefeated, they'd be in the playoff. They didn't, and they weren't.

quote:

They played 2 teams with a pulse and went 1-1.


They played 13 teams with a pulse, and went 12-1. Terrible year.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15333 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:38 am to
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ding, ding - winner!!


So the top 1,2, and/or 3 recruiting classes OSU has been getting the past 4 years was a result of conference quality?



Come on now.

ETA:

You people argue against your own points.
This post was edited on 1/2/16 at 9:40 am
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:41 am to
We're currently sitting at #3 nationally....damn our conference sucks.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15333 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:42 am to
And unfortunately going to be #1 once Gary commits.



But yes, their point is ridiculous.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73414 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:46 am to
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You people argue against your own points.


Of course. If the SEC does well in bowl games, it's proof of conference strength. If they do poorly, bowls are meaningless. If they win the NC, it's SEC dominance. If they lose the NC, it's one good team, but the rest of that conference is terrible. SEC teams win because they're better. Everyone else wins because they're lucky or because the SEC team didn't care. Gotta love college football.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33307 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 9:46 am to
SEC SEC SEC
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6297 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 10:09 am to
Michigan and OSU are National brands and would recruit well as independents. Teams like Iowa could benefit as they obviously need a talent infusion.
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