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Posted on 12/18/15 at 6:08 pm to TampaTiger22
We didn't win in 06 because of Jamarcus.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:14 am to VernonPLSUfan
What does that even mean? Did Jamarcus coach at Alabama before he played at LSU? Did Jamarcus coach with nick saban? That wasn't a well thought out comeback,
Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:24 am to TampaTiger22
though he "replied" to you, I think his comment was more about the 06 team comments on the previous page.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:57 am to ATLTiger
Gotcha. I was baffled.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 7:15 am to TchPowDog
quote:
Steele had elite talent on D
No. We don't have anything close to elite dline. The only elite defensive players we have is in the secondary
Posted on 12/19/15 at 7:17 am to VernonPLSUfan
quote:
We didn't win in 06 because of Jamarcus
Well you're fricking stupid. Yeah Jamarcus setting the lsu single season completion % record while also setting the single season passing tds record is why we didn't win it. JRUSS was only the best qb in cfb in 2006.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 7:45 am to TchPowDog
I agree that Steele should not have been at the top of the list and want the best hire, but with depth issues at DL and LB, he gets one more year with me. Aside from being a bitch over his contract, ever thought that there was more than one (1) reason that Chavis jumped ship. We were thin this season and he knew it.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:32 am to chilge1
quote:
How we did not win the National Title or SEC that year is mind boggling between the offense and the defense that we had.
@ #3 Auburn
@ #5 Florida
@ #8 Tennessee
@ #5 Arkansas
for some perspective, that Auburn team was also 11-2 and beat UF, we know how UF turned out, and Arky was the West champ on a 10-game win streak when we went in and beat them. truly murderous road schedule that year.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:08 am to Salviati
quote:
I didn't expect a serious response from you. Facts and analysis have never really been your thing.
Thats amusing coming from someone whose whole post and premise was based on LSU shutting out McNeese.
quote:
First, I am not using speculation, I am using extrapolation
LINK
You cannot seem to wrap your head around the simple fact that your whole post started with the premise that LSU would have shut out McNeese and held them under a certain amount of yards.
Do you have any idea how stupid you sound when your whole point is based on a game that did not happen, yet you are inserting data from said game that did not occur?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:11 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
No. We don't have anything close to elite dline. The only elite defensive players we have is in the secondary
And yet the number if sacks went up, rushing yards per attempt went down, rushing yards per game went down
And the "elite players" in the secondary went from 3rd in the country in 2014 to 45th in the country.
Yet Salviati thinks that had we played McNeese our pass defense would have had 9 INTs and allowed 0 busted coverages because LSU showed a knack to destroy lesser competition all season. Hell, i bet had we played McNeese we'd have the best ranked secondary in the country*
*according to Salviati
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:13 am to Andre
While you are bashing others on here...I was wondering if YOU have any idea how stupid you sound on here. The thought process in your posts come across as that of a highschool kid.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:15 am to Rickdaddy4188
Not in clutch time of critical games. Auburn really stands out...good stats...between the twenties.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:20 am to Tigerinthehollow
You mad bro?
Why don't you call out the poster literally 3 posts above mine for calling another poster "fricking stupid" ?
or, you could just stay on topic and we can discuss LSU's defense in numbers, the title of the thread ;)
Why don't you call out the poster literally 3 posts above mine for calling another poster "fricking stupid" ?
or, you could just stay on topic and we can discuss LSU's defense in numbers, the title of the thread ;)
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:21 am to TchPowDog
I read this and I had to laugh. Yes, you certainly come across as a well educated individual. An MBA is certainly not the most elite advanced degree out there but it is a very strong degree. I'm 49....50 in less than a week...and I no longer have to work....if you have trumped me, all I can say is hell of a job kid. Again, thanks for the laughs this morning.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:23 am to Tigerinthehollow
Mad? Not at all.
I call you out because you do nothing but bash in all of your posts...whether other posters or LSU...you don't discriminate.
I call you out because you do nothing but bash in all of your posts...whether other posters or LSU...you don't discriminate.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:27 am to TchPowDog
quote:
Steele had elite talent on D and gave Miles his worst defensive performance in 11 seasons.
Steele had elite "injured" talent on D. Mills, Bower, White, LaCouture, & Godchaux to name a few that were obvious. This was the most banged up I've seen this team in a long time.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 10:29 am
Posted on 12/19/15 at 1:47 pm to Andre
quote:Okay, so facts and analysis are not really your thing, and, apparently reading the whole post and premise is not really your thing either:quote:Thats amusing coming from someone whose whole post and premise was based on LSU shutting out McNeese.
I didn't expect a serious response from you. Facts and analysis have never really been your thing.
quote:Do you see the second half of that post? Yeah, it's pretty obvious that the whole post and premise was NOT based on LSU shutting out McNeese.
Why don't you analyze his argument?
I'll do it for you.
Suppose LSU shut out McNeese and held them to the same number of yards as Texas A&M. Seems reasonable.
That changes the 2015 numbers to 22 points per game and 334.75 yards per game.
Year . PPG . YPG . . DC
2015 . 22.0 . 334.8 Steele
2014 . 17.5 . 316.8 Chavis
2013 . 22.0 . 340.7 Chavis
2012 . 17.5 . 307.6 Chavis
2011 . 11.3 . 261.5 Chavis
2010 . 18.2 . 307.2 Chavis
2009 . 16.2 . 327.6 Chavis
2008 . 24.2 . 325.5 Mallory/SBD
2007 . 19.9 . 288.8 Pelini
2006 . 12.6 . 242.8 Pelini
2005 . 14.2 . 266.8 Pelini
Not a huge difference but some difference. All of a sudden, 2015 looks similar to, but better than, 2013. Why didn't Chavis do better in 2013? Maybe similar reasons apply to Steele in 2015.
But let's do better analysis and remove OOC and bowl game noise.
Year . PPG . YPG . . YPP
2015 . 24.8 . 350.40 . 5.46
2014 . 20.8 . 347.40 . 5.31
2013 . 24.9 . 399.40 . 5.73
2012 . 18.8 . 331.00 . 4.85
2011 . . 8.4 . 224.00 . 3.99
2010 . 20.6 . 324.80 . 5.24
2009 . 18.8 . 328.90 . 4.83
2008 . 31.8 . 367.10 . 5.69
2015 is better than 2013 and 2008. Work needs to be done, but I'm willing to give Steele a chance to improve and recruit.
quote:If you had bothered to click on YOUR own link, you might have learned the difference between a guess and an estimate. I guess "definitions" and "looking things up" are not really your thing either.quote:LINK
First, I am not using speculation, I am using extrapolation
quote:It seems clear that you have irrefutably established that you either didn't read the whole post or didn't understand the whole point. It would seem that you have the attention span of a fruit fly.
Do you have any idea how stupid you sound when your whole point is based on a game that did not happen, yet you are inserting data from said game that did not occur?
I guess the list of stuff that isn't "really your thing" is fairly extensive: facts, analysis, reading whole posts, definitions, and looking things up.
Could you do all of us a favor and add TigerDroppings to the list?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 4:44 pm to Salviati
man, you are in serious denial about how bad this defense is.
I truly feel sorry for you.
I truly feel sorry for you.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:17 pm to Andre
quote:
et Salviati thinks that had we played McNeese our pass defense would have had 9 INTs and allowed 0 busted coverages because LSU showed a knack to destroy lesser competition all season. Hell, i bet had we played McNeese we'd have the best ranked secondary in the country*
*according to Salviati
No, what he is saying the data set and metrics used by the original poster may be flawed.
I proposed the same idea. The starter of this tread used two simple metrics. I stated the two metrics used were simplistic for the argument. I went as far as proposing the 2015 data is incomplete due to the McNeese game not being played. The data sets before 2015 had all games, including the cupcake variety.
What Salviati did was take it a step further, which is admirable, by proposing a estimate result of the McNeese game.
There was other discussion of our stats versus the overall trend in college football and so on.
There is a lot more going on behind the game than two metrics..and two metrics is hardily enough to compare two coaches.
Carry on with all the drama.
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